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  1. #11


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    If you really want to do it before you ever boot Windows, you will need a program on a bootable disk. Not sure if Macrium free has that capability, it might.
    Yes, you can do it with Macrium.

    With Macrium WinPE, it also has 2 extra tools that you can use: Command Prompt for basic trouble shooting and a simple version of file explorer in case you cannot boot Windows then use it to backup your personal data, see screen shot:

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    Ok i want to backup the hard drive before I even turned on the laptop for the very first time.. so i need to create a usb recovery disk.. (on another computer)..

    so i started to do that and got this error picture below.. the way to fix that was to select MBR boot record and not UEFI only..

    but when i go to my boot menu i can't see the usb stick.. I think it may be because i have UEFI bios computer... not MBR or the other one.. i can see a boot disk i made from windows media.. that shows up.. but not this macrium image one..

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    Ok i want to backup the hard drive before I even turned on the laptop for the very first time.. so i need to create a usb recovery disk..
    Is this an OEM system? then that backup is already there.. You can get back to a factory state by creating recovery media from within windows.
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    OK. This ISO was created by another member WHS using 32 bit version, UEFI does not support 32 bit. Use this X64 version from my google drive instead: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxgxYnZOV7L7Z19rWUd4UTllMm8/view?usp=sharing

    You can actually format the USB with fat32 then use Winrar/Winzip to extract everything to the stick. No need to use Rufus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYHI View Post
    Ok i want to backup the hard drive before I even turned on the laptop for the very first time.. so i need to create a usb recovery disk..
    Is this an OEM system? then that backup is already there.. You can get back to a factory state by creating recovery media from within windows.
    This is a Laptop so it is OEM. However, he wants to backup everything without having to get into the initial setup, create user etc...
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    I understand that.. But why?

    When the recovery media will reset it back to the same exact state it is right now..

    To each his own I guess..

    Or maybe he does not know that..

    He can restore the factory out of box state, even after creating user accounts
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    well i was just thinking before i start even tinkering with anything in the system i'll just backup right now before i even turn it on via usb..

    it's not really important to "me" whether i get the before or after system setup but that is interesting that i could do that..

    more importantly i'm having a big problem here.. haha.. oops

    accidently started to format..
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    Both ways will get you the "Before" system startup - that is the purpose of the "Create a Recovery Drive"..

    So you can reset it back to factory out of the box state - if tinkering messes it up..
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    Ok well this matter is solved.. i thank you both for the help..

    my last little question is why does the usb have to be formatted fat32? are there such usb boot sticks that can be formatted NTFS?

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfacer22 View Post
    Ok well this matter is solved.. i thank you both for the help..

    my last little question is why does the usb have to be formatted fat32? are there such usb boot sticks that can be formatted NTFS?

    thanks
    Earlier vervion of UEFI won't work with ntfs so to ensure compatibility, we just format with FAT32.
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