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Continuous Beeping and Laggy Mouse

  1. #41


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    Nice find I am going to keep searching for a fix, just out of curiosity what chip and motherboard do you have? I have an off the way theory right now that it might have something to do with the chipset. Since it effects both video and usb I am thinking that maybe some error happening in the chipset that effects both USB killing the mouse and makes the screen flash by interrupting the PCI-E communication from the video card. I started thinking about this when I realized that every single person having this issue has a stand along video card of some sort but they are all different cards. Going to see if playing around with chip set drivers helps this issue at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by evergap View Post
    Hi kingofthesofas,


    I just have an old NVidia card 9800 gt with resolution set at 1920X1080.

    Here's a link you may be interested in by the way;

    Windows 10 Build 10041: dwm.exe, dwmredir.dll, and mouse not - Microsoft Community

    Just something I came across today.

    EG

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  2. #42


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC


    Kingofthesofa,

    Sorry for the late reply. I ended up downgrading to windows 10 build 9926 for the fourth time, lol. First went back to an image I had of 8.1 then upgraded. I got tired of the problems on that build, especially the one spoken of here.

    To answer your question I have a 6 year old Gateway with an Intel motherboard I think its a 4 series, pretty old but it works.

    Speaking of works thus far I have no lagging mouse problems nor beeping just yet. I did not before I went to build 10041 so I don't expect anything now. If I do I will let you know.

    Go figure...and I'll check in to see how you made out with your chipset theory!

    Thanks for posting!
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  3. #43


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC

    Uh Oh


    Microsoft just released the buggy (to me) 10041 build of Windows 10 on the slow ring. I hope I'm lucky and they fixed the issues I was having, but I have my doubts!

    Here we go again..sigh..
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  4. #44


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1


    I have a PC in my environment that has the same issue. The user runs SQL server off the box and Visual Studio. He will have several workbooks open at a time in excel and as many as 50+ web pages.

    -Windows 8.1
    -Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD7 TH LGA 1150
    -i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 cores)
    -32GB RAM
    -AMD Radeon HD7800
    -4 x 1440p Dell 27 monitors
    -Logitech K360 Wireless KM combo


    He gets this exact issue

    -A beep on the down click and a beep on the release

    -A beep for each 'section' of his scroll wheel (if that makes sense)

    -Continuous beeping as he moves at a rate of about 3/sec

    The sound comes from his speaker system. Not his not his motherboard or any other onboard speaker. Keyboard input is fine. If I turn on Caret browsing to use the num keys as mouse, when the pointer moves, it beeps just the same.

    I tried a different mouse and both on all ports, I tried disabling and reenabling the drivers, the mouse input, and updating all the same.

    Rebooting works but this is not optimal as there are often very important files that need saved.

    The common denominator he reports is that it happens when he returns to the computer after logging into it remotely via RDP and only after he has logged in remotely. It does not occur though, until he is using it itself (meaning to say that it has never occurred while he was connected remotely.

    I have tried terminating and restarting all RDP services that are clearly related to RDP in description or name. I also tried whatever that sticky keys link is and I am at a loss hopefully this provides enough info for someone to come up with something.








    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthesofas View Post
    ........I am a Sr Windows Systems Administrator by day.....I work in IT.........

    The one savior I have is mouse without borders from another machine allows me to use the mouse from the other computer just fine when mine is not working.
    Now, I am willing to bet sysadmin to sysadmin, that you have logged into that machine remotely at least once if not often via RDP? If not, you are using an application developed by Microsoft to remotely control PC's (while I was not able to find what protocol it uses and I didn't search long, I would imagine it makes use of Microsoft's own proprietary protocols ala RDP?).

    I feel like we're close to identifying what causes it and why, I'm going to try to dig into the nitty gritty of Mw/oB and RDP to see if there is any relation and try to isolate on my guy's system.
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  5. #45


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    An update on my chipset theory. I tried using the video cards in different ports, and making sure all my chipset drivers are up to date as well. I even installed a PCI USB card to plug the mouse into and the issue still keeps happening. I am going to try to install from scratch (previously I have only done a refresh and system restore) in a few days and see if it comes back. Obviously re-installing windows is not an ideal solution but I have tried pretty much everything I can think of.

    Putting on my tinfoil hat for a moment.
    Seeing as how this issue seems to transcend platforms and operating systems and seemingly has no common thread for users effected by it I am not ruling out this being some sort of malware or virus that is causing this issue. It would have to be something not being flagged as such so either it would be state sponsored or highly engineered. I am going to do some deep packet inspection and some other snooping around before I re-install windows.
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  6. #46


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthesofas View Post
    Seeing as how this issue seems to transcend platforms and operating systems
    Again I throw the possibility of Remote Desktop services out there. It may be a long shot, but the only thing common across me (RDP), the gamers (xsplit), and you (Mw/oB and possibly RDP) are programs that require full screen streaming of the Desktop Window Environment and the user session. In my case, if I switch users, there is no issue at all and I have not been able to reproduce it under my user or the local administrator. When you have this issue next, try Win+L and use the keyboard to change the user (if you have another) and see if the issue persists for you. This would rule out your malware theory by limiting it to a process in the user session that affects the way drivers interact.
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  7. #47


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by xerox13ster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthesofas View Post
    Seeing as how this issue seems to transcend platforms and operating systems
    Again I throw the possibility of Remote Desktop services out there. It may be a long shot, but the only thing common across me (RDP), the gamers (xsplit), and you (Mw/oB and possibly RDP) are programs that require full screen streaming of the Desktop Window Environment and the user session. In my case, if I switch users, there is no issue at all and I have not been able to reproduce it under my user or the local administrator. When you have this issue next, try Win+L and use the keyboard to change the user (if you have another) and see if the issue persists for you. This would rule out your malware theory by limiting it to a process in the user session that affects the way drivers interact.
    I did not see the possibility of that common thread but you make a compelling argument. I have not actually tried to make a separate user since I am the only user of that system but I am going to try to make another user and nuke my old profile tonight and see what happens with that. If it can be resolved by nuking the local profile then that would be an acceptable solution.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    Also just a note that I do not RDP to this machine as I do not allow RDP from the internet to it. I have a jump box I can RDP to remotely sits in a little DMZ with a HW firewall between it and the rest of my home network (yes I am a little paranoid). Mouse with out borders could be to blame but it was one of the first apps I un-installed and it still had the issue without it regularly. I re-installed it later because it provided a good work around to use the machine while the problem is happening. That all being said a user profile issue is something I have not explored yet but I will give that a go shortly.
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  9. #49


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    also any of the other people with this issue want to chime in if they have used RDP or any other sort of application that might use RDP or a similar protocol on their machines?
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  10. #50


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    okay update I killed the user I had and made a new one. So far so good, I am going to see if I have the problem come back with this new user.
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