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Weird issue with task manager (startup tab shows 2x all)

  1. #11


    Detroit
    Posts : 68
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise x64


    it has won. looks like im gonna simply reformat. I will be keeping an avid eye this way should it reintroduce itself I can pinpoint the cause and hopefully help the others ive seen post with this issue - none of which have found a solution.

    officially one of the weirder ones ive seen >><

    thanks for your attempts to help guys@!

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  2. #12


    Trnava
    Posts : 683
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64


    Unless you regularly change startup items, you can create a batch file to delete all and create only the ones, you need. Before deleting, make you sure,that you have recreated all your items , especially in AppInit_DLL:
    [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]
    [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices]
    [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce]
    [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows]

    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\ActiveDesktop]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit]

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows]
    "AppInit_DLLs"=-

    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]

    ; an example
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "EvtMgr6"="C:\\Program Files\\Logitech\\SetPointP\\SetPoint.exe /launchGaming"
    You might need to delete files from startup folders as well, with CCleaner for an example:
    Include1=PATH|C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\|*.*
    Include2=PATH|C:\Users\Mikai\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\|*.*
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  3. #13


    N.Y.
    Posts : 2,214
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    it has won. looks like im gonna simply reformat. I will be keeping an avid eye this way should it reintroduce itself I can pinpoint the cause and hopefully help the others ive seen post with this issue - none of which have found a solution.

    officially one of the weirder ones ive seen >><

    thanks for your attempts to help guys@!
    YW, sorry i was not able to help more. I was not questioning your abilities with a PC. I did see you wanted to avoid a reformat or refresh. I suggested that when working in registry it is always good to make a backup of registry and or restore point so to be able to get back to where you were without having to do a reset or refresh. If going to reformat do advanced clean install.

    Sorry i do not feel registry cleaners are good to use.MHO
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  4. #14


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    Well FWIW (again) I went ahead on the second PC and did ALL those changes, none of them caused the issue. (as far as disabling UAC/Maintenence/DEP/etc/etc/etc)

    Also DISM did nada

    Dilligently working on it by my lonesome, while i wait for some professional help
    After dism did you run sfc /scannow ?
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  5. #15


    N.Y.
    Posts : 2,214
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    Well FWIW (again) I went ahead on the second PC and did ALL those changes, none of them caused the issue. (as far as disabling UAC/Maintenence/DEP/etc/etc/etc)

    Also DISM did nada

    Dilligently working on it by my lonesome, while i wait for some professional help
    After dism did you run sfc /scannow ?
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    Click image for larger version
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Really not showing here is how this exactly happened, before you mangled the registry as you put it. Any System restore points made before this occurred ? Not so easy to understand, why i feel many have read it already, not posted yet. Worst case scenario, do a refresh.

    Also try run a DISM
    From the elevated command prompt, type:

    dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

    Try a System file checker
    From the elevated command prompt, type:
    sfc /scannow
    Suggested it then
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  6. #16


    Detroit
    Posts : 68
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    Well FWIW (again) I went ahead on the second PC and did ALL those changes, none of them caused the issue. (as far as disabling UAC/Maintenence/DEP/etc/etc/etc)

    Also DISM did nada

    Dilligently working on it by my lonesome, while i wait for some professional help
    After dism did you run sfc /scannow ?
    A picture---

    Click image for larger version
    yessir, i have a batch file that runs both I will add while im here, someone mentioned he thinks somehow both startup folders (appdata/programdata) are joined. while it was a sound idea the file doesnt appear in both folders when i add to one anyhow.

    I also pulled one of the files that show up in startup that DOESNT show double (due to being in startup via the installer placing it in the registry) and placed it in the startup folder, and it began showing doubles. SMH!

    So it does have something to do w/ that location specifically. Just not sure how or where or what. I will say i havent formatted yet, ive been busy backing everything up. Likely asap tomorrow. This is always more work than you expect, sigh!

    Thank you again - this goes to everyone jds63 - no worries, i didnt take it as such. May have gotten a little worked up as you can imagine. If one thing can do that to me its wasted time :P I would liked to have atleast walked away knowing what the cause was for mine and others sake lol.
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  7. #17


    Detroit
    Posts : 68
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise x64


    Well just as an update (i figure you guys deserve that much after trying to help) I ended up reformatting which obviously fixed the issue. I went through my normal routine to set up the PC. (somehow I NEVER get to the point where I feel ready to set up an image, ughgh - maybe this time). I checked the startup menu religiously after almost every change, and the problem never seemed to return.

    All i can do/venture is assume that "somehow" two files that shouldnt have been joined were done so via symlinkcreator which I use to move Chromium to a proper install directory. (such a pain that is)

    Before finding said app I had found something called Junction or Tjunction or something and was unaware it was a command line utility so had double clicked on it which may have ran it in whichever folder I had it in at the time or something.

    Thats the best guess(es) i have. That or deleted something that wreaked havoc similar to certain folders being necessary in both user/appdata/xxxx/ and programdata/xxxx/programs at the same time or whatnot.

    Either way, whats done is done so i cant really call it a failed venture but I see this pop up from time to time so I'd love to have found out the what where and why :P Especially for the folks that have items which they want to run at start, this problem causes it to run twice every time lol. In my case if i wasnt so anal i probably could have ignored it, atleast temporarily. I have nothing in my startup as of current :P

    Anyways, thanks again for the effort. This site has some of the best and most helpful minds on the net if you ask me. Seems to be devoid of the riff raff that stalks forums like tomshardware and hardforum. Eeep!
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