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Future For Windows 8.1

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    Future For Windows 8.1


    I guess now that we see Windows 10 starting to take off in the form of the TP, I wonder what is the future of developing or refining Windows 8.1. We were going to get a second major update, but I guess that's now what the original Windows 10 build was. So will there be further improvements or refinements to Windows 8.1? Will there be more release of Internet Explorer for it?

    In asking this, I realize and understand the support cycles, but I think we may be on the cusp of game changing marketing and maintenance of Windows by Microsoft. So I don't want to assume anything. And I realize that we can only speculate, but pondering the future is fun and interesting, so I'm curious what others think.

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    The changes made in Windows 10 tech preview should really have been made in Windows 8.1 Update 1 (<-- Stupid name) or in the big 'Update 2' that never happened, so I'm not sure what Microsoft have planned for Windows 8.1. Hopefully the rumours are true about Windows 10 being a free upgrade for Windows 8 users, but a part of me thinks that if there's any truth in this rumour, that maybe it will only be for those who have a Windows 8 computer less than 6 months old when Windows 10 is released?

    Internet Explorer will continue to be updated though, just as IE11 is still available for Windows 7 (although I think IE11 may possibly be the last version available for Windows 7).
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    The changes made in Windows 10 tech preview should really have been made in Windows 8.1 Update 1
    Actually, the changes in 10 should have been Windows 8. W8 has been a disappointment because it forced with out asking desktop/PC users to an unwanted, unfriendly new "Start Screen" with tiles user interface. W10 is an attempt to undue the damage from W8.x.
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    The only thing really known for sure is that it will continue to be supported in the form of security updates until sometime in the early to mid 2020s. Whether or not there will be any significant new features... I'd say it's unlikely, but not out of the question. The fundamental thing to remember, is that while they're trying to diversify, Microsoft still makes a great deal of its annual revenue from the sale of Windows and Office. It's difficult to convince people to upgrade to a new version if you keep backporting all the best bits to the older software people already have.

    Personally, I'm a little sad to see the start menu come back. It's such an inefficient use of screen space and was a huge step backwards in almost every respect compared to the old Program Manager from Windows 1.0-3.11. The Start screen wasn't the best solution for desktop users, and forcing desktop users into it until 8.1 rolled out was a real head scratcher of a move, but at least the program listing via the start screen uses the full resolution of the display, it doesn't waste like 95% of the screen. Plus, you show me a Windows 8 user who complains about the missing start menu and I'll show you a Windows 8 user who likely doesn't know about the search charm and how it blows the start menu completely out of the water.
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    Personally, I'm a little sad to see the start menu come back. It's such an inefficient use of screen space and was a huge step backwards in almost every respect compared to the old Program Manager from Windows 1.0-3.11. The Start screen wasn't the best solution for desktop users, and forcing desktop users into it until 8.1 rolled out was a real head scratcher of a move, but at least the program listing via the start screen uses the full resolution of the display, it doesn't waste like 95% of the screen. Plus, you show me a Windows 8 user who complains about the missing start menu and I'll show you a Windows 8 user who likely doesn't know about the search charm and how it blows the start menu completely out of the water.
    When it comes to PC (and full sized monitor users) you clearly are in the minority as, by far, most PC users MUCH prefer the old Windows 7 start orb and desktop over Windows 8 Start Screen. And the proof is in the dismal sales of W8.

    Wastes 95% of the screen? Nah! Let's avoid extreme exaggerations, okay? And remember, the standard W7 taskbar can easily be set to autohide when an app is open so the app has 100% of the screen's real estate IF THE USER SO DESIRES - and that's the point. It is, or should be, the user's choice.

    Let's also remember one of the primary reasons why Windows and the "wintel" PC is the dominant OS and hardware platform and not MacOS and Macs, is because Windows allows for every user to customize Windows and their hardware as they chose. Macs were totally proprietary. Apple's way or no way. Microsoft forcing a totally new UI - with the STATED intent of making it so Windows 8 users will automatically like and choose Windows Phones over other types, went over like a lead balloon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asvent View Post
    Personally, I'm a little sad to see the start menu come back. It's such an inefficient use of screen space and was a huge step backwards in almost every respect compared to the old Program Manager from Windows 1.0-3.11. The Start screen wasn't the best solution for desktop users, and forcing desktop users into it until 8.1 rolled out was a real head scratcher of a move, but at least the program listing via the start screen uses the full resolution of the display, it doesn't waste like 95% of the screen. Plus, you show me a Windows 8 user who complains about the missing start menu and I'll show you a Windows 8 user who likely doesn't know about the search charm and how it blows the start menu completely out of the water.
    Yeah, personally I much prefer the 'Start Screen' to the 'Start Menu' even though I'm a traditional keyboard/mouse, non-app using, desktop user. But, I don't oppose choice for those who prefer a Start Menu. Afterall, the Start Menu is pretty much the same behind the scenes, just different ways of displaying it, so there was no technical reason why they couldn't have always had the option for both.
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    Windows 8.1


    I don't think Win 8 is going to see much more now except bug fixes, but I would like to be wrong and see it improve in some way

    10 (in its current form) is nice to try but for me so far it is not as good as 8, forcing me to use the desktop is not what I want, especially when using apps/start screen
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    Posts : 55
    Windows 8.1


    I am really screwed with searching for Installed programs on my PC after Updating to Windows 8.1.1 from Bundled Windows 8 OS.
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    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    Windows 10 is nothing more than Windows 8.2. Nothing will change at this time. 10 is still in Alpha stage. It only introduces what third party apps implemented, because of Microsoft's shortcomings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by towget View Post
    I am really screwed with searching for Installed programs on my PC after Updating to Windows 8.1.1 from Bundled Windows 8 OS.
    You just really need to install Classic Shell or Start8 and utilize the standard desktop. As for from Metro Screen, the search function still works the same as it does in desktop.
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