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Future For Windows 8.1

  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    I think 8.1 will be like XP.
    It will be around for a while.
    I agree, the main thing is a reliable OS, MS will continue to fix any bugs in 8.1 that may pop up in the future. I used XP since it was released and didn't change to Vista or 7 because XP worked reliably. As far as new features go, there seems to be a lot of free features you can use instead of MS features. One example, I like Macrium (free) versus the Windows image backup.

    I'll take a look at 10 when the dust settles but changing to a new OS and getting everything tweaked and fixed just the way I want is a task I don't really like to go through very often, another reason i stayed with XP so long. LOL

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  2. #42


    Wow! Quite a thread you started here, Jody, by asking one simple question.

    My thoughts is that MS will concentrate on 10 now with no further additions except security updates for 8.x. 8.1 was a fix of what 8 should have been. Just the option of booting to the desktop and using the Apps Screen would have made all the difference in the world, although I don't think that it would have gained the notoriety of 7 of which "traditionalists" seem to want to hold on to. It's surely time to move on to the next OS in what I consider to be a compromise.

    Windows 10 is really nothing but 8.1 with a new screen door on the front of it, meaning the return of the Start Menu. It's not the traditional menu, but rather a mini combination version of the Apps Screen and Start Screen.

    The other big difference is that the Store apps run along side of Win32 apps on the desktop with somewhat better snapping rather than their own screen forcing one to use the desktop as paulsalter stated. Upon closing apps one is left on the desktop instead of returning to the Start Screen no matter if one uses the Start Menu or Start Screen. The option to boot to the Start Screen is greyed out for now, but if and when it is in option I'm hoping it returns to the Start Screen. Really not a big deal for me to push the WinKey to return to it for now. I also auto hide the Taskbar, so for it to be just a screen to me.

    For the record, the Apps Screen is what really replaces the Start Menu, not the Start Screen. A company can configure to boot to the desktop and use the Apps Screen as an alternative to the Start Menu. This can all be configured via Group Policy. App links can be easily columned there for employees to find with ease. It can also be configured to use the Start Screen in the same way.

    I am in very much agreement with what asvent is trying to convey. 8.1 is very much usable in the enterprise environment. MS's number one priority is to write OSs directed at that environment. That's what made them the successful corporation that they are.

    MS will pursue and eventually develop one OS to run across multiple devices. A number of good reasons for this. Familiarity for employees and the commoners is one. Hand them any device and it will be familiar. Buy or develop an app once and run it across multiple devices. Ease of development for apps also. Side loading of customized apps fit for a particular business type across multiple devices all configured via group policy. This will simply make IT more efficient for a lower cost.

    The statement that users are leaving Windows for other platforms is simply not true. A little research will show this. Maybe true for mobile devices but not for the desktop. Users will simply try the "next OS". The "year of linux" will never happen. Apple can sell all the over-priced fashion devices they want and Google can sell all of the cheap devices they want to, but in the end MS will come out way ahead of the game with one OS and apps across multiple devices. Slowly, but surely I think they will succeed. It all makes too much sense to me anyway.
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  3. #43


    I didn't read all of this, just some on the first page. But, I personally like 8.1 better than 8. However, I do wish they would have somehow included the Start Menu and the Start Screen both. Maybe, Windows 10 will offer that option. If Windows 10 isn't a free upgrade, then maybe Microsoft will offer a free update to 8.1 to put back the Start Menu or both. My only problem, is that 10 really needs to be a free upgrade. People are not willing to have bought a computer just last year, and then go out and buy a new one when theirs' works fine. That's why it should be a free upgrade. I just bought my Mom a new desktop with 8.1 in May. People like us are on budgets, and we aren't willing to buy a new product every time it comes out.
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  4. #44


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    Why should a person need to go out and buy a new computer, just because a new OS came out. That is like going out and buying a new motor for your car, because the oil needs changed.

    If the computer ran 7 fine and now runs 8.x.x fine. It will run 10 with no problems.
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  5. #45


    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Why should a person need to go out and buy a new computer, just because a new OS came out. That is like going out and buying a new motor for your car, because the oil needs changed.

    If the computer ran 7 fine and now runs 8.x.x fine. It will run 10 with no problems.
    Agreed! That's why they should offer 10 as a free upgrade for those that don't want to buy a new computer or have to pay to upgrade.
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  6. #46


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    Doubtful that MS is going to offer 10 as a Free Upgrade. They did not offer 8 free. They did discount it though, which brought the prices of computer hardware down.
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  7. #47


    That's true! But, 8 was a big difference than 7. So, we never know. But, I can see why it wouldn't be a free upgrade. Although, it needs to be.
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  8. #48


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    The only thing 8 proved was that making a mobile interface as the common denominator was not a good idea. Same reason that changing the appearance of Office & the Server OS.

    Microsoft has a long ways to go to correct what damage has been done. Why do you think that they are now implementing the ability to run Android apps on the Windows phones & tablets, along with allowing Android OS & iOS users use Microsoft products that were never available before.
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  9. #49


    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    The only thing 8 proved was that making a mobile interface as the common denominator was not a good idea. Same reason that changing the appearance of Office & the Server OS.

    Microsoft has a long ways to go to correct what damage has been done. Why do you think that they are now implementing the ability to run Android apps on the Windows phones & tablets, along with allowing Android OS & iOS users use Microsoft products that were never available before.
    Yes, they do! I heard something about them having something to do with Android, but not iOS. What exactly are they doing with them?
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  10. #50


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    Williamsjesse17, they have released Microsoft Office for iOS & Android over a year ago. They are just now catching up to bringing Android into the Windows OS.

    The current CEO has realized and did before he was CEO, that MS has to align itself with its largest competitor in both the Server market & desktop market. MS is losing ground on the fact that more Unix & Linux servers run SAP, than MS. Same goes for the fact that Databases, Firewalls, Email servers are also being ran on more Linux & Mac servers than Beige Boxes.

    MS cannot even compete against Big Iron anymore. If 10 does take place of 8. It will only be those who still have a mindset that 8 was a failure. Even though they are still running it under the badge of 10. Same NT Kernel in 8, that 10 runs on.
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