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Now that we've had some time to use Windows 8: Wish list?

  1. #21


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    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post

    Personally, I'd rather not be reliant on the 'cloud' for anything. That aside, asking everyone to pull elements of the OS over the Internet, is not going to be very helpful for those with bandwidth caps or low bandwidth connections
    Like everything else, you pay what you can afford for what you want, and if you aspire for something, you make allowances.;
    That's very understanding of you

    You are dependent on the cloud already - for internet, updates, antivirus, support - Windows 8+ will ensure that dependence increases. Fact of life, I am afraid.
    Not exactly. None of those are mandatory, people may choose when and for how long to use the Internet, within their individual constraints. Making 'cloud' access compulsory is going to be very hard on those of limited means/connections and is tantamount to creating a two tier Internet. Perhaps when ISPs around the world can offer everyone, reasonably fast and relatively inexpensive connections, the 'cloud' will be seen as a valid medium. Until then, it's only useful for those who have the means.

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  2. #22


    Portsmouth Hants
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply I gave earlier:
    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...html#post82253

    I would suggest to Calico that the acid test of his self-belief would be for him to unplug his internet connection and see how long before he cracks and goes back to using it. If we never hear from him again, he's proved his point!
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  3. #23


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    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    An option to bring back the old Start button and Start Menu.

    Make System Reset and System Refresh possible without inserting the Windows installation media.

    As suggested by Coke before, improve maintenance abilities and also tweak Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player.
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  4. #24


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    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply I gave earlier:
    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...html#post82253

    I would suggest to Calico that the acid test of his self-belief would be for him to unplug his internet connection and see how long before he cracks and goes back to using it. If we never hear from him again, he's proved his point!
    Oh dear.
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  5. #25


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Nothing against Metro but please "De-uglify it" and make tiles cutomisable.

    User (non Metro) applications don't need to generate zilliions of tiles --and for easy navigation why sor example cannnot you click on say the Main tile or top level tiles and if there are sub objection then these tiles cold ve viewed as a Pop out from the main tile. I don't want to scroll leftwards for 3,000 items !!!!.

    The OS should be able to tell eassily enough if it's running a metro or "standard" application.

    Windows to go to be available to "Non Corporates" and allow OFFICE to be installed without forever requesting activations.


    Otherwise it seems to do the job fine.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #26


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    -Hyper V needs SERIOUS work!
    I figured by this time, Hyper V would be matured more, not the case, not one bit. I couldn't even get Windows 8 to be working correctly, or 7. I hear vista works fine
    You use Hyper-V the wrong way, this is not something to use like VMware WorkStation, Hyper-v is good as it is, I don't know what you do wrong but I have 0 problems to install XP, Vista, 7 and 8 on ......, first of all I don't know what Microsoft as in mind to include Hyper-V with Windows 8 , Hyper-V is a server product. it's a real good one.

    Microsoft leave Hyper-V to IT peoples.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I also don't understand why I can't go full screen, a full environment, in a VM. This needs to be fixed, VMware is still my choice for virtualization so far. Hyper V needs to meet that standard or better.


    This is because you don't understand the fact that Hyper-V is a bare metal server host VM solution, you compare it to an OS host solution like VMware WS , Hyper-V is the equivalent of VMware EXSI , it's not design to host Windows 8 , it's design to host server that you admin from a remote desktop.
    If you use Remote Desktop Connection Manager to access the VM , you have the sound and also the choice of resolution, Hyper-V is design for servers room, you don't physically access those servers you remote access them

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    . Also, within a VM, I'd like to be able to access the host's files. This can be done with a networked drive in the VM, but I'd like to see a simple logging on to the host from the VM. For example, I could go to My Computer, find under the Media Server tab, and click on my host's PC name and enter in the credentials for a user, and log in and access files. !


    Again you don't understand the use of Hyper-V, this is for security reason, you don’t want cross contaminated VM with a virus. VMware EXSI don’t allow paste and copy between VM too. Again Hyper-V as no place in Windows 8 , Microsoft do so to attack VMware, MS don’t like see other succeed, they want everything for them. Aside you will not be able to install legally, a server in VM host by Windows 8 , I’m pretty sure it will be against the license.


    this is an exemple of how we use Hyper-V; We use SCVMM to manage the Host, the VM and Remote Connect them, Hyper-V as never be design to be use like VMware WorkStation,

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  7. #27


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    I'd like to see bloat reduced so that full installation would still fit on a 700MB CD, and run live from it - WinCDtoGO - or on a USB stick - WinISOtoGO.
    Why bother?
    A blank CD costs basically the same as a Blank DVD.

    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    With selected parts of your system pulled directly down from the cloud, on demand, no huge driver banks on your system, full of legacy drivers for kit you don't have and will never use, ...
    Include only the basic drivers on the install DVD.
    Create another DVD of drivers and make it available for download from MS (for those who want them).



    Why send that to the "Cloud"?

    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    The charging model becomes based on the cloud with micropayments for storage and user time or flexible 12 month deal packages, Pay As You Go etc - pretty much the same model used for mobile phones.

    Since you never really own any Microsoft software - you just license it - it seems fair that you have the choice to pay for what you use, and not for all the stuff you don't.
    That would end up costing the consumer a lot more, than the current model (just like renting Office).

    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    You are dependent on the cloud already - for internet, updates, antivirus, support - Windows 8+ will ensure that dependence increases. Fact of life, I am afraid.
    Currently, you don't need to be connected to the "Cloud" to use your PC (well I don't).



    What's a CD ?? Is it one of those funny round things I last saw several years ago in a Pub serving as Beer mats.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #28


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    LOL . Nothing wrong with optical media. It is very cheap which is a great advantage.

    Small portable devices, so beloved by the masses, do not have space to include an optical drive, unfortunately.
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  9. #29


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    I'd like to see bloat reduced so that full installation would still fit on a 700MB CD, and run live from it - WinCDtoGO - or on a USB stick - WinISOtoGO.

    Most of the bloat is from WINSXS, and the high levels of redundancy in the MUI parts of the system, as well as the registry. WinPE and WinRE are crazy reduplications as well - they should all just be subsets of the kernel, for which there might just be a case for a fail-safe backup, of essential safe-mode components.

    With selected parts of your system pulled directly down from the cloud, on demand, no huge driver banks on your system, full of legacy drivers for kit you don't have and will never use, and a single swapfile, also written and mirrored offsite.

    No charges for upgrades, available on demand, and no Preloading by the OEMs beyond a basic system startup disk to allow choice.

    The charging model becomes based on the cloud with micropayments for storage and user time or flexible 12 month deal packages, Pay As You Go etc - pretty much the same model used for mobile phones.

    Since you never really own any Microsoft software - you just license it - it seems fair that you have the choice to pay for what you use, and not for all the stuff you don't.
    It's hard to imagine greater fail than a demand-paged OS using the Internet as the backing store. Except maybe adopting a mobile phone model and micropayments for everything in perpetuity. Jeebus. April Fool's was days ago.
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  10. #30


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    Windows 8.1


    One thing i have to add: full fledged Disk and file programs.

    Mac OS X Disk utility does virtually everything that pertains to disks and ISO images, including restore from iso.

    Additionally, Unarchiver opens far more formats than zip.
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