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  1. #31


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post

    As far as I know the Core is not an official term used by Microsoft.
    Kari, Core is officially how pkeyconfig.xrm-ms stores it and verified when called by pidgenx.dll during installation.

    Key Status : Valid
    PID : 00258-66866-99234-AAOEM
    Extended PID : 00000-02586-686-699234-02-7177-9600.0000-2892014
    Activation ID : c7c00280-b24d-4e82-89ca-4f1288eb1d9e
    Product Description : Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:DM
    Edition ID : Core
    Part Number : [Blue]X18-95433
    Key Type : OEM:DM
    Eula Type : OEM
    Group ID : 2586


    This is how windows sees CSL:

    Key Status : Valid
    PID : 00262-35740-80846-AAOEM
    Extended PID : 00000-02623-574-080846-02-7177-9600.0000-2892014
    Activation ID : e2ca509a-a2f4-498b-ba09-297685d369ac
    Product Description : Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Edition ID : CoreSingleLanguage
    Part Number : [Blue]X18-95448
    Key Type : OEM:DM
    Eula Type : OEM
    Group ID : 2623

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  2. #32


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post

    As far as I know the Core is not an official term used by Microsoft.
    Kari, Core is officially how pkeyconfig.xrm-ms stores it and verified when called by pidgenx.dll during installation.
    I searched the Interwebs for something to confirm the use of Core in one way or another and found this, that's why I used expression "as far as I know...":

    Windows 8
    Windows 8 is the basic edition of Windows for the IA-32 and x64 architectures. Documentation obtained from the ImageX tool and Paul Thurrott's book on Windows 8 also refer to this edition as "Core".[2][3] This edition contains features aimed at the home market segment and provides all of the basic new Windows 8 features including the Start screen with semantic zoom, live tiles, Windows Store, Internet Explorer 10, InstantGo, Microsoft account integration, the Windows desktop and more.
    (From Windows 8 editions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.)

    Good to know it is used officially, I stand corrected .

    Kari
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  3. #33


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    As a last resort if I reset my laptop to Windows 8 using recovery USB would I be able to create/obtain .iso for Windows 8.1 Core Single Language (English US) for a clean install? What would be the steps? i.e. do I've to install all the drivers go through all the updates, etc., etc., ... At that time would it be necessary to to take the route of App Store?

    I would appreciate comprehensive step-by-step guidance for this please

    Thank you
    Last edited by gaming; 18 Oct 2014 at 01:02. Reason: Added: Windows 8.1
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  4. #34


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Hi Superfly could you please elaborate your response in How to get Windows 8.1 iso with a Single Language key? here as this may be a possible solution

    Thank you
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  5. #35


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    I think I'm stuck in endless loop. Please look at the two screenshots and help me decide how to proceed:

    Attachment 52592

    Attachment 52593

    • From above two screenshots what's your opinion about existing (OEM installed) Windows version - Core or Core Single Language
    • I've the file with below mentioned information - is it suitable for install in my case
      en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso
      CRC32: 46BC7825
      MD5: CDADC5A76634651770A365F457702803
      SHA-1: 4652DC6EBFEBE02C6A63E167C36E3FAEDFB93999
    • Which generic key should I use to install - Core: 334NH-*****-*****-*****-D3VPT or Core Single Language: Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC
    • Would I be able to activate with embedded OEM key (I've retrieved)

    Thank you
    If it doesn't say Pro its Core. You have 8.1 Single Language, which is the Core edition.

    EDIT: 8.x Single Language and 8.x Core Single Language are the same thing.
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  6. #36


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    As a last resort if I reset my laptop to Windows 8 using recovery USB would I be able to create/obtain .iso for Windows 8.1 Core Single Language (English US) for a clean install? What would be the steps? i.e. do I've to install all the drivers go through all the updates, etc., etc., ... At that time would it be necessary to to take the route of App Store?

    I would appreciate comprehensive step-by-step guidance for this please

    Thank you
    Your really confusing me now, I thought you already had an ISO?
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  7. #37


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post

    Attachment 52569

    Would I be able to clean install with above mentioned .iso?
    Should I use 334NH-*****-*****-*****-D3VPT or Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC during install?

    I apologize for all this nag, and thanking everyone in advance
    You will need the above iso and the generic CoreSingleLanguage=Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC key to install - then activate with the key you have retrieved from the bios.

    The en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso uses 334NH-*****-*****-*****-D3VPT - your single language key will not activate that installation.

    To confirm what has already been said...

    Windows 8.x (aka Core) and Windows 8.x CoreSingleLanguage are different editions and therefore each require different keys - much like Windows 8 requires a different key from Windows 8.1 (for installation anyway)

    Hope this helps and good luck.

    PS I'm assuming you have a CSL key, if unsure - see here:

    Windows Activation issue/error
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    I think I'm stuck in endless loop. Please look at the two screenshots and help me decide how to proceed:

    Attachment 52592

    Attachment 52593

    • From above two screenshots what's your opinion about existing (OEM installed) Windows version - Core or Core Single Language
    • I've the file with below mentioned information - is it suitable for install in my case
      en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso
      CRC32: 46BC7825
      MD5: CDADC5A76634651770A365F457702803
      SHA-1: 4652DC6EBFEBE02C6A63E167C36E3FAEDFB93999
    • Which generic key should I use to install - Core: 334NH-*****-*****-*****-D3VPT or Core Single Language: Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC
    • Would I be able to activate with embedded OEM key (I've retrieved)

    Thank you
    If it doesn't say Pro its Core. You have 8.1 Single Language, which is the Core edition.

    EDIT: 8.x Single Language and 8.x Core Single Language are the same thing.
    I will repeat previously asked question about having two different generic install key logically there should be only one if Core and Single Language are same.

    Please have a look at Superfly's response above in Red Text Color (I changed)

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    As a last resort if I reset my laptop to Windows 8 using recovery USB would I be able to create/obtain .iso for Windows 8.1 Core Single Language (English US) for a clean install? What would be the steps? i.e. do I've to install all the drivers go through all the updates, etc., etc., ... At that time would it be necessary to to take the route of App Store?

    I would appreciate comprehensive step-by-step guidance for this please

    Thank you
    Your really confusing me now, I thought you already had an ISO?
    I repeat I have the above mentioned .iso and would like to confirm, it didn't accept Core Single Language: Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC key, I will go at length nuke system and install using Core: 334NH-*****-*****-*****-D3VPT to see if it will activate with OEM in-built key next weekend, will update the outcome

    Thank you
    Last edited by gaming; 19 Oct 2014 at 04:35.
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  8. #38


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Windows 8.x (aka Core) and Windows 8.x CoreSingleLanguage are different editions and therefore each require different keys - much like Windows 8 requires a different key from Windows 8.1 (for installation anyway)

    Yes 8.x Core and 8.x Core Single Language are two different versions, one is single language and one isn't.
    What I said is, 8.1 Single Language and 8.1 Core Single Language are the same. They should work with the Y9NXP-*****-*****-*****-9D6TC key.

    EDIT: In your other screen shot you have in blue

    EditionID --------- CoreSingleLanguage
    ProduceName --- Windows 8.1 Single language

    ^^^
    They both say Single Language
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  9. #39


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    I will repeat previously asked question about having two different generic install key logically there should be only one if Core and Single Language are same.

    You seem to be magically fixed on this word "Core" at the same time not fully understanding what it is supposed to mean.

    Although I would rather talk about a basic edition of Windows 8.1 or Windows 8.1 Single Language which also is a basic edition, only difference being its display language cannot be changed, let's use your favorite word "Core" and list all Windows 8.1 editions. Each of them requires its own respective product key, not one of the below listed Windows 8.1 editions can be activated with a product key from another edition:

    • Windows 8.1 "Core" requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core"
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" N
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" KN
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" Single Language requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" Single Language
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing N
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing KN
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing China requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing China
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing Single Language requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing Single Language
    • Windows 8.1 Pro requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro
    • Windows 8.1 Pro N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro N
    • Windows 8.1 Pro KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro KN
    • Windows 8.1 Enterprise requires a product key (volume licencing key) for Windows 8.1 Enterprise

    I repeat: not a single one of above mentioned Windows 8.1 editions can be activated with a product key belonging to another edition. And, as you can see, each and every edition of Windows 8.1 except Pro and Enterprise editions are "Core" editions.


    • Single Language Editions: display language cannot be changed
    • N & KN Editions: No Windows Media Player which must be separately downloaded and installed from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2929699
    • With Bing Editions: only available for OEM's (pre-installed)


    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 19 Oct 2014 at 08:56.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    I will repeat previously asked question about having two different generic install key logically there should be only one if Core and Single Language are same.
    You seem to be magically fixed on this word "Core" at the same time not fully understanding what it is supposed to mean.

    Although I would rather talk about a basic edition of Windows 8.1 or Windows 8.1 Single Language which also is a basic edition, only difference being its display language cannot be changed, let's use your favorite word "Core" and list all Windows 8.1 editions. Each of them requires its own respective product key, not one of the below listed Windows 8.1 editions can be activated with a product key from another edition:

    • Windows 8.1 "Core" requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core"
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" N
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" KN
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" Single Language requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" Single Language
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing N
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing KN
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing China requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing China
    • Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing Single Language requires a product key for Windows 8.1 "Core" with Bing Single Language
    • Windows 8.1 Pro requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro
    • Windows 8.1 Pro N requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro N
    • Windows 8.1 Pro KN requires a product key for Windows 8.1 Pro KN
    • Windows 8.1 Enterprise requires a product key (volume licencing key) for Windows 8.1 Enterprise

    I repeat: not a single one of above mentioned Windows 8.1 editions can be activated with a product key belonging to another edition. And, as you can see, each and every edition of Windows 8.1 except Pro and Enterprise editions are "Core" editions.


    • Single Language Editions: display language cannot be changed
    • N & KN Editions: No Windows Media Player which must be separately downloaded and installed from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2929699
    • With Bing Editions: only available for OEM's (pre-installed)


    Kari
    Kari: Thank you for the explanation, is it possible that I could ONLY get Hash of CoreSingleLanguage/Windows 8.1 Single language 64-bit please
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