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  1. #11


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Hi alphanumeric Thanks for the response, please have a look at the screenshot in the first post it clearly says 8.1 Single Language - this is where confusion started

    Now what I really need is answer for Post #7

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  2. #12


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yes, it is confusing. If it says nothing, it is Core
    Sorry about all the fuss, so it's safe to infer that I've Windows 8x CORE Single Language

    There are couple of more questions and I request learned members to please help I also admit that I am being paranoid here - only because don't want to get stuck in endless loop of activation

    To make long story short, this laptop came pre-installed Windows 8 Single Language that I upgraded to 8.x through Store. Now I want to go for a clean install, I've installation media from following two .iso

    • en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso (it was recommended to someone else at HP forum)
      CRC32: A5889F86
      MD5: 0E8F2199FAE18FE510C23426E68F675A
      SHA-1: 1CE53AD5F60419CF04A715CF3233F247E48BEEC4



    • IR3_CSLA_X64FRER_en-US_DV9.iso (I read about encrypted .esd file in this forum)
      CRC32: 52202136
      MD5: 3DB8CEEC032B1A16564E63C9CB85C996
      SHA-1: D1DBC605017FE1603D3C553A31656D409FF7C40E


    1. How do I check their integrity as I don't have access to MSDN/TechNet?
    2. Which one should I opt 8 or updated 8x?

    Thank you
    The first one is Windows 8 Multi editions, Core and Pro. It's a TechNet/MSDN ISO. As far as I know It's not Single Language. I do not believe it will use your embedded OEM BIOS key. You'll know when you try to install it. If it prompts for a key that means it will not use your embedded key. I used that ISO to install Windows on my laptop and it used my embedded key automatically. 8 Core was installed automatically without any prompt to enter a key. My laptop didn't come with the single language edition though. The second one, I have no idea, it's not a TechNet ISO. To verify if your ISO matches one of those you compare your MD5 against what's listed. if they match it should be safe to use. For the first one listed anyway. I have no idea if what's listed for the second one is legit or not.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Thanks alphanumeric:

    I wanted to verify the legitimacy of the downloaded files ̶ the details (CRC32, MD5, SHA-1) are from the actual downloads using HashTab

    The integrity of first one (en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso) you already verified, the second one (IR3_CSLA_X64FRER_en-US_DV9.iso) is mentioned in this forum downloaded from MDL as .esd file ̶ it contains all updates till April 2014, all I want is if someone has installed from this could please verify the parameters

    Thank you
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  4. #14


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Be careful with anything you download from MDL? They openly discus bypassing/cheating activation etc. Stuff that would get you banned on any other reputable forum. You can go to MSDN and look at the subscriber downloads. If you click the details for an ISO it will list the SHA 1 code. You can look around for free, you just can't download anything without a subscription. It will list the actual file name for the ISO too. That's as official as it gets. Google the actual file name and you should be able to find a torrent download for it. There are some that upload their MSDN or TechNet ISO's to bit torrent for those that don't have any other way to get them. It's not something I would ever do, my MVP status means to much to me to chance losing it by doing something like that, that could get me in trouble.
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  5. #15


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    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Clipped and pasted from MSDN. I believe this the first one you posted earlier.

    Windows 8 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)
    ISO English Release Date: 8/15/2012 Details

    3416 MB


    This file contains both Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro. Please refer to your product keys to determine which products are included with your subscription.

    File Name: en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso
    Languages: English
    SHA1: 1CE53AD5F60419CF04A715CF3233F247E48BEEC4
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  6. #16


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Sorry for the long delay alphanumeric
    Be careful with anything you download from MDL?
    Sure I would not in particular from MDL rather anything from Internet

    Stuff that would get you banned on any other reputable forum
    I value my membership wherever I register

    You can go to MSDN and look at the subscriber downloads
    The problem I were looking for Windows 8.1 Single Language that was later explained here that it is same as Windows 8.1 Core Single Language

    If you click the details for an ISO it will list the SHA 1 code
    I don't see Windows 8.1 Core Single Language listed

    Google the actual file name and you should be able to find a torrent download for it. There are some that upload their MSDN or TechNet ISO's to bit torrent for those that don't have any other way to get them
    Thinking aloud, praying and wishing I'm lucky enough to find a PM with a link of single file download

    It's not something I would ever do, my MVP status means to much to me to chance losing it by doing something like that, that could get me in trouble
    I understand

    Clipped and pasted from MSDN. I believe this the first one you posted earlier.

    Windows 8 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)
    ISO English Release Date: 8/15/2012 Details

    3416 MB


    This file contains both Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro. Please refer to your product keys to determine which products are included with your subscription.

    File Name: en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso
    Languages: English
    SHA1: 1CE53AD5F60419CF04A715CF3233F247E48BEEC4
    Thanks for the verification, I really need Windows 8.1 Core Single Language .iso my earlier download of .esd and subsequent conversion to .iso was unverifiable - Microsoft has made this next to impossible for the ones with OEM install as so far nothing has worked for legit download

    I have a download which I believe having verifiable parameters from grey area, there are two problems:

    1. I would like someone to verify legitimacy with a stupid question - what are the chances that even all parameters match file could have been tempered?
    2. Rufus is defaulting the Volume Label as the one created from .esd file (link obtained from MDL) which I am reluctant to use


    Click image for larger version

    Looking forward for a reply of lengthy post

    Thank you
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  7. #17


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    The Single Language ISO's are not listed on MSDN so I don't know what the actual file names are? Or the hash codes? Single Language versions really throw a wrench into things. The TechNet/MSDN ISO's will use OEM keys, just not those SL keys. In the past before I was an MVP, I had to resort to downloading an ISO off of bit torrent. The hash was what it was supposed to be so I used it. Since then though its been official ISO's from TechNet and MSDN. Wish I could be more help.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Wish I could be more help.
    You definitely could! If following is familiar:

    en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso
    CRC32: 46BC7825
    MD5: CDADC5A76634651770A365F457702803
    SHA-1: 4652DC6EBFEBE02C6A63E167C36E3FAEDFB93999

    I would like to verify legitimacy with a stupid question - what are the chances that even all parameters match file could have been tempered as this was downloaded from unfamiliar website?

    Thank you
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Wish I could be more help.
    You definitely could! If following is familiar:

    en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso
    CRC32: 46BC7825
    MD5: CDADC5A76634651770A365F457702803
    SHA-1: 4652DC6EBFEBE02C6A63E167C36E3FAEDFB93999

    I would like to verify legitimacy with a stupid question - what are the chances that even all parameters match file could have been tempered as this was downloaded from unfamiliar website?

    Thank you
    It's almost impossible to recreate a hash other than from the original source - that's why MSDN lists those for verification.

    The Single Language ISO's are only distributed to OEM's - The ESD files are downloaded via a loophope which allows Windows 8 users to upgrade via the store. There are no hash verifications as each download uses authentication prior and creates the esd based on certain parameters at the time of download....or similar - hash will thus always be different based on that.
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  10. #20


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    To what Superfly said. The odds are it hasn't been modified if the hashes match. It would take uber skills to pull that off, if even possible.
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