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  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin1949 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post

    Here, Here!

    I also get bugged by the misplaced "DOS" reference. Additionally, I hate when users refer to any text-based application or interface as "the old DOS program we used to use". I've heard the OS/2 Command Prompt, text-based OS/2 applications, terminal sessions on a mainframe through a telnet app, and even Unix text-based apps all referred to as "DOS".
    Well, Jody, You've got a hell of an uphill job on your hands reeducating all us poor uneducated types . Especially as I can see, on a quick and dirty search, over 300 Threads which talk aboiut the "DOS Command Prompt" and the "DOS Command Window".

    Really, if you know what someone MEANS by the phrase they use, does it really matter whether they are TECHNICALLY correct. Many of us are not particularly interested in the ins and outs of the architecture of the computers we use or the way that things work on a chip level, we just want to know what button to click to get our fonts changed or our files in an acceptable order.

    It's very comparable to the fact that I KNEW what you meant when you said "Here, Here" at the start of your post. The Phrase is actually "Hear, Hear" but you've probably never seen it written down.

    However, for someone who is a student of the English Language, the words "Hear", "Here" and "Year" are all pronounced quite differently. But then, I'm pedantic about English.

    But, as I knew what you MEANT by the misquoted phrase, I would never normally draw attention to it by correcting you - but on this occasion it does seem to be a good illustration of the fact that we Pedants all have our individual crosses to bear (LOL).

    Merlin
    Ye're a man after me own heart, Merlin!

    Because this is a technical forum, I have to occasionally sit on my hands to keep from correcting some of the more egregious errors made in the English language. But for the most part, sitting on my hands works.

    Yep, I caught "Here, Here!" too, as well as a number of other mutilations of English . . . but I digress.

    I agree that DOS is no longer what it used to be, but the fact is that in the beginning, Windows 3.0/3.1 was built on top of DOS. I was around when Bill Gates was still in diapers. And, I'm not so sure that the underpinning of Windows 8.1 isn't still tied to a whole lot of DOS. Why else do we have the Command Prompt? If there weren't some DOS down deep in the bowels of Windows, Microsoft would have made a Windows app to cover what we use the Command Prompt for. Chill everyone and take the above with a grain of salt.

    I will never try to tell someone they're dead wrong, because if I do, I can guarantee I'll eat my words before long. Neither will I correct someone unless I absolutely know they're fixing to get into trouble. It makes no nevermind to me if someone wants to say there's no longer any DOS in Windows, or if they say it's all DOS underneath. Like you, I understand what they mean. And there's no way someone's gonna get into trouble trying to do something in DOS these days, since the Command Prompt will just sit there and act dumb . . . or tell me I'm dumb.

    Just my two cents and that won't even buy a penny piece of candy any more.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    Merlin, at the risk of derailing this thread, I do agree with you. Proper English is dying. Here in the US if you correct anyone you're considered the "word police". We have really butchered the language.

    Feel free to correct my post now.

    EDIT: This is something we should discuss in the Chillout Room section. Don't get me started on they, their, and they're.
    Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh! Another hero of the English Language.
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  3. #23


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    May I say dBASE again if looking to seriously manipulate files? True, it's not free.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    Merlin, at the risk of derailing this thread, I do agree with you. Proper English is dying. Here in the US if you correct anyone you're considered the "word police". We have really butchered the language.

    Feel free to correct my post now.

    EDIT: This is something we should discuss in the Chillout Room section. Don't get me started on they, their, and they're.
    Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh! Another hero of the English Language.
    My high school teachers where dedicated. I also enjoyed English Literature, probably not even an elective anymore.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by merlin1949 View Post
    It's very comparable to the fact that I KNEW what you meant when you said "Here, Here" at the start of your post. The Phrase is actually "Hear, Hear" but you've probably never seen it written down.

    However, for someone who is a student of the English Language, the words "Hear", "Here" and "Year" are all pronounced quite differently. But then, I'm pedantic about English.
    Merlin
    You'd be right in saying that I have not often seen it written down, and that's funny as I'm usually fussy when it comes to the written word (don't let my little gaffe fool you). Nonetheless, I'm glad you have a sense of humour about it all.
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  6. #26


    Just tried ReNamer that Count Mike recommended and it worked for me. I setup a simple test of 3 files following the naming convention you described. Added them to the ReNamer window then setup a run to delete from H to [ and poof, the rename is done.

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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    Merlin, at the risk of derailing this thread, I do agree with you. Proper English is dying. Here in the US if you correct anyone you're considered the "word police". We have really butchered the language.

    Feel free to correct my post now.

    EDIT: This is something we should discuss in the Chillout Room section. Don't get me started on they, their, and they're.
    Would love to continue the discussion but do not know how to locate this "Chillout Room" of which you speak. Many such modern terms are strange to me and their meanings shrouded in mystery.

    A few directions, maybe ??

    Merlin
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  8. #28


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    It is here Sir Merlin, the quest you question: Chillout Room - Windows 8 Forums

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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin1949 View Post

    Would love to continue the discussion but do not know how to locate this "Chillout Room" of which you speak. Many such modern terms are strange to me and their meanings shrouded in mystery.

    A few directions, maybe ??Merlin
    Scroll back up to the top of this page>click on Windows 8 Forums (second >scroll to the bottom of that page and you should see next to the bottom: Chillout Room.

    Better yet, just follow this: Chillout Room - Windows 8 Forums
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  10. #30


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    This: ReNamer - Download I use for many years now and is very versatile and fast. Can even do conversion capital <>small letters hash removal, numbering etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    Just tried ReNamer that Count Mike recommended and it worked for me. I setup a simple test of 3 files following the naming convention you described. Added them to the ReNamer window then setup a run to delete from H to [ and poof, the rename is done.

    Click image for larger version

    Click image for larger version

    With the endorsement from ztrucvker, I'm also going to give Count Mike's nominatyion a go - it looks like a really nice simpole basic decision tree renamer, which looks (from ztrucker's screen dump) as if it could solve the great majority of my probs.

    I tried to get some advice like this from a few UK Forums (not even I am pedantic enough to say "fora" although I have to admit knowing people who do) and was attacked egregiously by a series of OCD task oriented posters who, instead of making helpful suggestions asked why I was wasting my time and why I just didn't do it the long way around. The obvious reason, of course, is that one or two days at this end of the problem would, if there is a solution in the form of some software, is going to save me a lot of time in the long run because this is going to be a problem while I'm still able to read books and comics.

    The REAL reason, of course, is that I'm a computer geek.

    I had my first system in '77 - a 16k Model 1 level II Trash-80 which cost me then £310.00.

    Available software - Nil.

    So I became habitualised to finding a run time based solution to any problem that I came across and would spend four or five hours writing and compiling routines that I could have done "the Hard Way" in half the time. Gave me a huge sense of accvomplishment every time I succeeded and (for a\nyone who remembers programming in Trash-80 Basic, improved my Maths Skills exponentially.

    So that's why I came here - I guess you're mostly American ?

    Merlin
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