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If the Desktop View isn't improved....

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    If the Desktop View isn't improved....


    I don't know quite honestly. One on hand, there is a new interface, the Start Screen; on the other, Windows 7 minus the Start button. There have been a few screenshot leaks of a post-Consumer Preview build, and from what I gather, nothing is being improved to the Desktop to make it STAND OUT as Windows 8. An average person seeing someone use a laptop or desktop or a tablet in the Desktop would figure it's Windows 7 until they go the Start Screen.

    To me, if the Desktop isn't improved, I don't find a whole lot to make an upgrade from 7 to 8.

    I also think if the Desktop doesn't scrap a lot of the older Aero design of 7 and vista, it'll clash even further with Metro design. The Desktop MUST be designed with the Metro design principles that the Start Screen was built with: clean lines, modern, simple, and digitally authentic. As of now with the Consumer Preview and some screenshots, this is not true.

    I hope to see by the end with the Release Candidate, I'm proven wrong. Until then....

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    It's not going to happen, at least in Windows 8. They've alienated enough people with the inclusion of the Metro start page and the removal of the start button. Plus it's far to late in the development cycle for any major UI changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    It's not going to happen, at least in Windows 8. They've alienated enough people with the inclusion of the Metro start page and the removal of the start button. Plus it's far to late in the development cycle for any major UI changes.
    I probably wouldn't say it's too late for major changes. I mean, if you look at vista's development phase from beta and onward, it went through some major changes. Heck, go back to Longhorn and then onward, that was some MAJOR design changes. Hopefully, history plays out again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    It's not going to happen, at least in Windows 8. They've alienated enough people with the inclusion of the Metro start page and the removal of the start button. Plus it's far to late in the development cycle for any major UI changes.
    I probably wouldn't say it's too late for major changes. I mean, if you look at vista's development phase from beta and onward, it went through some major changes. Heck, go back to Longhorn and then onward, that was some MAJOR design changes. Hopefully, history plays out again.....
    I think you'll find that from Beta 2 until release there were no significant changes to the Vista UI. The gap between those two dates is the same time-frame we're looking at for Windows 8 - CP to release. The same was also true for Windows 7.
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    In my opinion, it would be great if Microsoft will make two versions of Windows 8. One with metro style that can be used by tablet users and one without.
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    It's taken Microsoft at least 2 editions or so of a windows to get it right every time, Windows 8 will be the start and the real winner will be Windows 9 or 10.

    It's just a shame that a company with that kind of resources can't put out a winner every time, oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    It's not going to happen, at least in Windows 8. They've alienated enough people with the inclusion of the Metro start page and the removal of the start button. Plus it's far to late in the development cycle for any major UI changes.
    I probably wouldn't say it's too late for major changes. I mean, if you look at vista's development phase from beta and onward, it went through some major changes. Heck, go back to Longhorn and then onward, that was some MAJOR design changes. Hopefully, history plays out again.....
    I think you'll find that from Beta 2 until release there were no significant changes to the Vista UI. The gap between those two dates is the same time-frame we're looking at for Windows 8 - CP to release. The same was also true for Windows 7.
    There wasn't a whole lot from beta 2, and there wasn't much with 7 since that was really just what vista should had been.

    But before beta 2, there were a lot of changes to the UI. Part of me still thinks this development phase of 8 is different since the past two releases have focused primarily on the Start Screen, and little on the Desktop. I think the Release Candidate will show what the final result will be for the Desktop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    It's taken Microsoft at least 2 editions or so of a windows to get it right every time, Windows 8 will be the start and the real winner will be Windows 9 or 10.

    It's just a shame that a company with that kind of resources can't put out a winner every time, oh well.
    Well, every Windows version is a winner (except vista) if you want it to be!
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    LOL , I liked Vista.

    Admittedly I got it after SP1 and wasn't trying to run it on a low rent machine.

    I posted a while back that I expect some kind of popup tutorial or similar in Win8. MS can't let millions get stuck in limbo like Chris Pirillo's Dad.

    I don't expect any other noticeable UI changes at this stage.

    Shame - there is much that could be done.

    The jarring jolt between the retrograde simple drawings and the beautiful intricacy of the main ui with it's improved Aero are very odd.

    It is like sticking a kid's crayon drawings on top of a Rembrandt.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I can definitely see Microsoft having an initial tutorial when you install Windows 8. When I installed the driver for my Microsoft Touch Mouse, it immediately goes to a maximized window and simply shows you how to use the touch gestures.
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