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    Hi there

    Currently Android has NOTHING that would want me to use it on a desktop - whether as a VM or as a Virtual Machine. The whole Android concept is based around those stupid tiles which were really HATED by desktop users in Windows 8. Thank goodness Ms came to its senses and released Windows 8.1

    Android IMO is best left where it belongs - on phones / slates / other 100% touch devices -- start trying to turn it into a desktop OS -- well it takes YEARS to develop 100% enterprise strength robust applications to run on it -- would you rely putting a billion dollar business with large networks and international operations on to an unproven OS.

    What about the zillions of pieces of ERP software out there - or large CAD / Engineering stuff -- do you really want to run that type of application on an OS that essentially is designed for touch screens and mobile phones.

    Google might get away with it - but remember a lot of google apps are all CLOUD BASED which is another problem for a lot of businesses.

    A lot of the drive for Android is probably by gamers and hobbyists - but a real life business needs cast iron enterprise strength robust applications - and my experience with Android apps so far is that it's always a gamble if the next time you use them whether they STILL work -- many times these phone apps get "updated" automatically and they either fail to work or are WORSE than the pervious version.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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    Couldn't see anything a normal Android OS can offer to desktops. Even if Google made a "real" desktop OS on same lines, it would be just another Linux. It would take a REALLY new OS and huge base of real applications to even start being any alternative to other mainstream OSes and years of convincing people and specially corporations to go for it.
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    Looks like they are focusing on games - that may be interesting for some people but not for many. What about the Windows applications.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Rider View Post
    I know they were working to that end via their 2nd youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAZaN7A27RM
    that's great news to me. As a backer I receive regular updates from them and this is the first I've seen of them saying anything positive about supporting the Surface. The Surface has always been listed as a "maybe".

    Part of being a backer meant we were given "votes" to cast to determine which individual devices would be given full support. We were just asked to cast our votes last week and I cast all of mine for the Surface. They haven't responded with the results of the voting yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Looks like they are focusing on games - that may be interesting for some people but not for many. What about the Windows applications.
    ( I think you meant to say PC applications instead of Windows applications)

    No need for Microsoft Windows (more properly PC Applications) applications at all. There is an Android app for most all things you could want to do as well as this thing can dual boot with Linux which can run many "windows" and or PC applications using Wine. For most popular PC programs there is either an Android equivalent or a version of that app made for Android.

    "Windows applications" are only those applications made by Microsoft and added natively into a windows OS (wordpad, ect) - no need for them at all unless you are running a windows OS that needs those applications.

    It's the AAA PC type games that don't have equivalents that's why that needed fixing. Now that said, an All in One OS that will run apps from Windows, Linux and Android from the same OS would be awesome - but only if Microsoft didn't touch it and it was all open source.

    I think we are getting closer all the time to that All In One type of system and one day when the open source community makes it, Microsoft will go Poof. React OS is still being developed and it's possible I suppose to merge Linux with android because they use the same kernel. I give Microsoft another 10 years at best before they fold.

    Besides, you can already run "windows" and or PC apps on Android devices via many methods, one such as visualization : http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/06...ps-on-android/

    and then there is the Wine on Android project How'd you like to run Windows apps on Android? | Network World
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Rider View Post
    No need for Microsoft Windows (more properly PC Applications) applications at all.
    Sorry but that is utter nonsense. There are plenty of applications that only run under Windows. For example I need only one program for my work - IBM Navigator for i It will not run under wine (which is a nasty cludge anyway), it will not run on OSX, it will not run on Android.

    I also need Office. Sure there are linux office suites which are mostly compatible (except for access, outlook, project) and some versions (2010 sort of works, 2013 doesn't) you can run under wine. Why would you want to though? What do you gain?

    I also have to boot into OSX for some programs which I can not use, even under virtualisation on Windows or Linux, mainly due to the lack of decent graphics support in VMs.

    Your original post was interesting - running Android on desktop could be fun. Different OS have a place for doing different things - for sure you would use linux not windows for a san - but don't get carried away and start thinking that Android is in some way a better OS for desktop users because for sure it isn't ever going to be. At least for some people.
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    No need for Microsoft Windows (more properly PC Applications) applications at all. There is an Android app for most all things you could want to do as well as this thing can dual boot with Linux which can run many "windows" and or PC applications using Wine.
    I think you are an optimist. I use Android and many Linux distros since years. But I still have to go to Windows for many applications.

    Whilst it is true that there are many Android and Linux applications that can do wonderful things, there are often no equivalents to the vast array of Windows apps - especially in the are of system analysis and repair, video editing, CAD and a lot more. Even office applications such as Power Point have no real match. Yes there are e.g. Libre Office apps, but they are a lot less powerful and they are not fully compatible with my gezillion files.

    And forget Wine. That rarely works. And games, I don't really care about. In my 50 years of IT, I have never played a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Rider View Post
    No need for Microsoft Windows (more properly PC Applications) applications at all. There is an Android app for most all things you could want to do as well as this thing can dual boot with Linux which can run many "windows" and or PC applications using Wine. For most popular PC programs there is either an Android equivalent or a version of that app made for Android.
    Wow, you sure have a penchant for exaggeration. "Worlds most popular OS", "No need for Windows", "App for most all things you could want"...

    All of those things are simply false... at least for most people. You might get better reactions if you didn't try to blow smoke up our rear ends all the time.
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    Well, to be fair, Android is the operating system with the most installations - mainly because of all the phones. And it does have some useful apps in the Apps Stores - although most of it there is junk. But for the rest, we have said everything.
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    Well, as I said in an earlier post, most used != most popular, otherwise McDonalds would be the most popular food in the world... it's just the most eaten. Popularity implies that you actually prefer it to everything else.
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