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A few Minor Idiosyncracies - Request assistance!

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    A few Minor Idiosyncracies - Request assistance!


    Hello to all,
    You members, you know who you are are great. Finally figured out how to give out reputation points and in trying to give them to the people who have helped me, I ran into the to many in 24 hour period warning. I'll catch up!
    Currently I have some strange problems, could use fixing, and explanation or just opinion.
    1. Unexplained shut down lock ups. Sits there with the shut down screen and the indicator running and eventually all drive operations stop and it sits. I kill power, don't like that, and restart and it works fine again. Has happened about 2 times during this now running great install. Many times on the previous failures on my part.

    2. When in the start menu I have segregated the the apps from my stuff (installed programs). When I hit show all apps a whole bunch of stuff comes up segregated by the OS. Adminstration tool??, system tools, can't be more specific as the W8 box is being played in!! The point is that, like Firefox winds up in the Windows Apps section and won't drag out of there. I will of course try to find an appropriate tutorial (wonderful things) and was hoping someone had an easy answer. Too many things floating around.
    Thanks in any case
    Glenn

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    Regarding item 1:

    It likely is your Norton drivers doing this. You know my advice about that already. The REMOVAL TOOL!!!!!

    Any bsods too? Post the crash dumps if there are any. See the top most thread in Crashes and Debugging subforum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Regarding item 1:

    It likely is your Norton drivers doing this. You know my advice about that already. The REMOVAL TOOL!!!!!

    Any bsods too? Post the crash dumps if there are any. See the top most thread in Crashes and Debugging subforum.
    Firmly committed, like that in a guy! No never. Occasional hiccups, another is that the defrag from the apps menu or found using the search only caused flashing cmd.exe boxes for a millisecond. Using C: drive > Properties > Tools > defrag always worked. Today that didn't work, been playing a little. The disk said it needed to be repaired (in the maintenance section). Let W8 do it, then did a sfc for the halibut, no errors and boom defrag worked from the search app find. Other times the delete key isn't caught on a reboot or a full restart. Just enough to be an occasional aggravation. Rarely can get the F11 key to work and never the F8 key, BTW is this normal? W8 with it's maintenance and sfc seem to really work!!
    Most certainly will take your advice and look the the crashes section of the forum. Keep on rockin!
    Glenn
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    Howdy,
    Found some help and progress in the locked up shutdown sequence. One method that worked although I only used it for a very short time is to stop the fast start up option. This unfortunately does increase IMHO the start up time. The second which so far is 100% successful is to left click on the desktop and then hit Alt-F4. It will pop up a shutdown window. At first I had trouble getting the Alt-F4 to respond all of the time, but was told that a left click to select the desktop and then the Alt-F4 will do the trick. Running with it for a bunch of trials and it seems to work everytime. Hope that helps anybody!
    Glenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennc View Post
    Found some help and progress in the locked up shutdown sequence.
    3 weeks ago I gave the solution to all your problems in my first post of this thread. Not sure why you'd want to jump through hoops and have a machine prone to crashing, poor performance and freezes.

    Haven't you seen all of the numerous threads on this forum where I helped people remove Norton and they are now as happy as can be because of it?

    Latest example: https://www.eightforums.com/crashes-d...html#post84751
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glennc View Post
    Found some help and progress in the locked up shutdown sequence.
    3 weeks ago I gave the solution to all your problems in my first post of this thread. Not sure why you'd want to jump through hoops and have a machine prone to crashing, poor performance and freezes.

    Haven't you seen all of the numerous threads on this forum where I helped people remove Norton and they are now as happy as can be because of it?

    Latest example: https://www.eightforums.com/crashes-d...html#post84751
    Howdy GMan,
    Lets just say that I am hard headed. I will read up on your successes, but I am going to use Norton. Now that I have the shutdown problem solved, I'll have to remember if I have any further issues with Windows 8, other than it's design. I put this answer in this thread for everyone to be able to find and obscure idiosyncrasy with the shutdown. Take care!
    Glenn
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    Cool, I just don't want to have anyone get the impression that Norton is actually alright to install and run while hoping their system remains problem free at the same time.
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