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Is anyone on here happy with windows 8?

  1. #291


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Lets hope Microsoft are humble enough to learn from their mistakes and sort this mess out.
    What mistake?? You get two systems in one. How much better can it be.

    And Hannibal was just a Linux - going nowhere. The Romans annihilated the Carthaginians at the end.

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  2. #292


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    I have one point I have to agree with you about, and have said it myself. I see Windows 8 prosper on a tablet more than a desktop. I personally would think on a smart phone, it isn't worth it. But there will be always hacks to make something work for everyone. Microsoft is to the attitude, change or stagnate. Remember, people didn't want to leave XP, they DID stagnate!
    The thing is Win7 does everything Win8 does, and on my machine it's lightning fast. So why move to a system that in my opinion goes backward? I repair computers as a hobby, and belong to a fellowship where I help members by doing it for nothing. And believe me, XP is still out there in very, very big numbers and very much alive and active.

    Re hacks, people went crazy when Windows Mail was omitted from Win7. Myself and a few other guys in the Win7 Forum did a hacked version of Windows Mail from Vista to Windows 7 which can be viewed as a tutorial in the Win7 forum here. However, being a hybrid not all of the functions worked. And, in that instance M$ provided a viable alternative in WinLiveMail. The hacked version of the Start Menu in Win8 does not come close to equalling the original. And there's no way I'm going through the dramas again that we had getting WinMail to work in Win7. I want a system that works how I want it to work straight out of the box.

    As far as stagnating, I won't be doing that because when Win7's use by date comes up for me, and I suspect that will be a lot of years, I'll move to an operating system that provides exactly what I want ... meaning direct boot to desktop, and cascaded text menu.

    And I venture to say if Microsoft persist in their push to use a tablet form on a desktop OS, they will the ones stagnating and left behind as the other operating systems rush in to fill the vacuum.
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  3. #293


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Lets hope Microsoft are humble enough to learn from their mistakes and sort this mess out.
    What mistake?? You get two systems in one. How much better can it be.

    And Hannibal was just a Linux - going nowhere. The Romans annihilated the Carthaginians at the end.
    Duuhhhh! That's what I said in my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by poppa bear
    when the Romans first encountered Hannibals elephant charges into their ranks, they were decimated. But they learned from their mistakes, re-grouped and figured out tactics to overcome the elephant charges.
    You failed to say they only beat Hannibal after they changed tactics! Perhaps I could recommend reading glasses? Or is it just selective memory recall?

    As for two systems in one, which planet are you from? Your statement hardly warrants a comment. You get a hybrid that's half a computer and half an iPhone cum Tablet and good at neither on a desktop.

    Right now Linux must be rubbing their hands with glee in anticipation of filling the vacuum left by M$'s demise in the desktop market.

    The ancient Greek wise men were once debating for several days on how many teeth a donkey had and were divided in their opinions. (And no, they weren't referring to a Metro supporter.) A stable hand happened to come into the room and suggested they go out and count the teeth of a live donkey. They had him flogged for insubordination. So how much were they interested in facts or just opinions? Huuuh?

    I'll spell it out simply. Pick out a batch of tasks to do on a desktop computer, which involve extensive work with the start menu. Do them on equally fast machines using Win7 and Win8 and see which one gets the job done quicker. No hacked start menu allowed .... and I might add no contest! Win8 left standing in the slipstream of Win7.
    Last edited by poppa bear; 11 Apr 2012 at 17:00.
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  4. #294


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 691
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    I think Microsoft should have approached this with 2 versions in mind. A desktop version where Metro could be turned off completely, and I mean completely, and a tablet version.
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  5. #295


    Posts : 239
    Win7 & 8 64bit / Linux Mint 14


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Remember, people didn't want to leave XP, they DID stagnate!
    Not true. Simply not using a new operating system because MS decide to introduce it is not stagnation. It's a failure on the part of MS to market the thing successfully and accurately and to establish there is a need for it. They failed abysmally with Vista even though under the hood was a good OS trying to get out. So are you suggesting it was the fault of existing XP users or did the MS focus group(s) let them down.

    Simply attaching the 'stagnate' label on many individuals and companies that felt (and still do) that XP serves their needs better is arrogance.

    Sometimes companies get so big they start living in a bubble believing their own self generated hype. Apple may be very successful at the moment but give it a few years and then look. Historically all empires fail.
    Last edited by mart4494; 11 Apr 2012 at 17:01.
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  6. #296


    Posts : 239
    Win7 & 8 64bit / Linux Mint 14


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I think Microsoft should have approached this with 2 versions in mind. A desktop version where Metro could be turned off completely, and I mean completely, and a tablet version.
    from all the feedback here if MS release Win8 with only the Metro UI then it will prove they live in a bubble. There's plenty of negatives about the force feeding of Metro being written everywhere. Sure there are positives as well but you ignore those negatives at your peril and many a software company has gone down that road in the past.
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  7. #297


    FWIW, IMHO, metro is there to attempt to force a change in computing. Instead of a desktop we are supposed to buy dumb terminals, everything in the clouds with it's effects. If I happen to be accidentally right, that happens to be exactly what I don't want, for whatever reasons. Metro after a fair amount of work makes a passable start up option. W8 runs again, IMHO much quicker than Ubuntu 11.10. I of course have deleted all the apps. Would I pay money for it, well depends on the price.
    Glenn
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  8. #298


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I think Microsoft should have approached this with 2 versions in mind. A desktop version where Metro could be turned off completely, and I mean completely, and a tablet version.
    this is what preach since day one here.
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  9. #299


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I think Microsoft should have approached this with 2 versions in mind. A desktop version where Metro could be turned off completely, and I mean completely, and a tablet version.
    The problem is it seems M$ want one platform for all applications for purposes of economizing.

    Or maybe Win8 Customer Preview is just spamming us with advertising for it's future Tablets and iPhones?
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  10. #300


    Posts : 239
    Win7 & 8 64bit / Linux Mint 14


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I think Microsoft should have approached this with 2 versions in mind. A desktop version where Metro could be turned off completely, and I mean completely, and a tablet version.
    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    this is what preach since day one here.
    I think by now we've been backwards and forwards so many times over the virtues or otherwise of the Metro UI. I hope I'm wrong but I think MS have an agenda to force downloaded apps and cloud computing wherever possible in whatever way necessary. Maybe their own market research tells them they are finished as a major force simply bashing away with another classic UI Win release - who knows - only time will tell.

    Maybe they are fazed by the Apple success story but like all fashion accessories they come and go.
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