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Startup Repair adjusts image to new hardware!

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    Startup Repair adjusts image to new hardware!


    When I travel I like to apply the exact image of my desktop to my laptop to take with me. I was ready to do this with the Win8 I have dual booting on my desktop, imaging it over to a second partition to add a laptop Dual Boot.

    Normally I would use Acronis Universal Restore to adjust the image to new hardware as it images over. However it strangely didn't offer Universal Restore option so I was prepared to do the PNP Adjust using Paragon Adaptive Restore CD after image was applied.

    Then things got stranger. The image couldn't be found to adjust by PAR, so I decided to boot into 8 repair to see if it was seen by that. Using flash stick installer repair it not only found the installation but when I ran Startup Repair it appears to have adjusted it to the significantly different hardware. At reboot I was given the Dual Boot menu which I'd previously added using EasyBCD from 7. It booted into Win8 after making several other adjustments which almost looked like first start after SysPrep. All I needed to add is my older lappy graphics and wireless drivers. It already runs as well on the laptop as it does on the desktop.

    Since the SATA and most IDE drivers are almost always in the installer/Repair CD anyway, I've wondered why WinRE couldn't in previous Windows do the driver adjustments on changed hardware. Normally the deal-breaker is storage controller, but I've learned that SID and HID also play a role in the adjustments required.
    Last edited by gregrocker; 17 Mar 2012 at 20:17.

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Yes, that makes sense.

    If you are running Win8 from usb - it will need to adjust to whatever you plug it into.

    Probably don't need to run startup repair , even.

    (You must be running an earlier version of Paragon - v12 can see win 8 and will run p2p adjust. It works fine - but from what you just said - it probably isn't necessary)
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    Si, I'm Dual Booting using Easy to add 8 from 7 so I get the Win7 style WIndows Boot Manager. Is there a known way to get Win8 style Boot Manager after the fact - when I've only imaged 8 and not installed it?
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    I haven't tried this - so give it a go.

    Boot into 8, ( assuming win 8 os letter is C ) open an elevated cmd, type:

    bcdboot c:\windows

    Press Enter.

    See if that does it.
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    Responds "Failure when attempting to copy boot files."

    Before doing that I installed Easy in 8, deleted Win7 entry and added it back. At reboot 8 was now default but I still had the Win7-style Dual Boot Menu.

    Did this action itself copy the boot files so that another CMD now needs to be run to get the Win8 Dual Boot GUI?
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    I assume that is because you have the 100mb thing as system?

    It works fine for me - I can switch back and forth between ui boot menu and 7 text style boot menu.

    Try making win 8 partition system - or even making win7 partition system.

    If that is not the case - and you already have win7 as system - then you need permission - so from within 8 - use windows explorer to browse 7 drive - if it says you don't have permisson - ok it .
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    Before doing that I installed Easy in 8, deleted Win7 entry and added it back. At reboot 8 was now default but I still had the Win7-style Dual Boot Menu.
    Did you fix the MBR - see steps 4 and 5 here: Dual Boot - Delete a OS - Windows 7 Forums
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    Nothing to do with the mbr this time Wolfgang.

    Win 8 starts to load - that is to provide the environment for the immersive boot menu ui executable to run.

    If you choose another o/s at that point - then you have to exit and reboot to get into the chosen o/s.

    If bootmgr is throwing up the text menu - it doesn't need that mini o/s environment - so no need to reboot after selection.

    The mbr has finished it's job way before you see any of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Nothing to do with the mbr this time Wolfgang.

    Win 8 starts to load - that is to provide the environment for the immersive boot menu ui executable to run.

    If you choose another o/s at that point - then you have to exit and reboot to get into the chosen o/s.

    If bootmgr is throwing up the text menu - it doesn't need that mini o/s environment - so no need to reboot after selection.

    The mbr has finished it's job way before you see any of that.
    You are probably right. You know more about this stuff than I do.

    I only know that I keep getting the black double boot screen with only Win7 as OS after I threw Win8 out of the bootmgr. But once I cleaned the MBR it booted straight into Win7.
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    The sequence is this:

    mbr code parses partition table - finds Active partition - loads first sector ( that means it starts the partition code ).


    the partition code looks for bootmgr and starts it up. Bootmgr looks for bcd store and parses it to find instructions.

    I think it is here that win8 bootmgr decodes whether to load up min o/s and run ui menu - or simply throw up text boot menu.

    Don't know yet exactly what is going on at that point.

    Mahmoud doesn't know either.

    It is early days.
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