Momentary freezing/hanging, slow performance, not my fault

unborndad

New Member
Messages
17
Location
doing pirouettes with 2pac
hi, i have updated to windows 8.1 and recently i have having a lot of problems with how slowly my computer is running. May i say I have spent a lot and I mean a lot of time trying to fix this problem and I know it has nothing to do with disk space, viruses or drivers. this is has been messing with my network adapter and has been giving me gateway accessibility problems even though there is nothing wrong with my connection proof being that if i diagnose the problem in my adapter it resets the adapter just to have the same problem later until reset it again and the connection and all my devices is fine. this problem includes a momentary cursor pause at random times that only effects my trackpad if i plug a mouse in it works while my track pad is non functional, this can last from anywhere from usually 2-10 minutes until my trackpad becomes functional again. im not even getting "not responding" messages when it when it freezes at random times, i just have to wait until i hear that chime that sound like it comes from an information box then everything goes back to slow again and barely functional. this problem includes playing media, being that when i play media it takes anywhere from 2-15 minutes before it starts playing, this media can be from playing music and videos on my hard drive to videos on youtube. when i start up my computer it works fine for a bit like 5-10 minutes then starts being slow again with sending information to execute actions (mainly media actions), i even get a lot of loading issues on skype. even more to my conviction that its the operating system causing the problem is the fact i had my computer working normally for a week at random just with the gateway connectivity but all files i excuted in the times quickly like they were supposed then with another boot sometime later it went back to being slow again.


theres a lot of grammar problems/errors whatever i know bare with me i wrote this at 3am in the morning its now 5 and im too lazy to go through but you can get the idea of what im saying, please help, thank you.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
Knowing you computer make and model would help also modem or router.
It would appear that you may have problems with your modem or router, have you done a hard reset.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Pavillion H8-1202
    CPU
    I7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
    Motherboard
    PEGATRON
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NIVDIA GeForce GT 520
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC656GR CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster S22B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 32 bit color
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB
    Keyboard
    Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
Without knowing any of your specifics, I have to respond in the most general of terms. Sorry!

But generally, when a PC freezes it's because it's being called on to do more than the hardware is capable of.
A slow hard drive, or lack of sufficient RAM for the OS being run, are two possible causes. Then you have programs that are trying to gobble up RAM and not leaving enough for the other Services, TSR's and programs to run in.

For instance, Windows installs Many Services that almost NO-One would ever need, but there they are, running merrily in the background. I run a script, to shut down over 25 totally redundant Services.
Then if you look in the task manager, you'll find a lot of junk running that you don't need.....Schedulers, reminders, updaters, and the like. Those must all be shut off, and I normally do that when I'm setting up a new PC.

It takes a while, to properly set up a new PC. For instance, you might have a CPU with 6 cores, but by default, Windows will use just one. There is a setting in MSCONFIG > Boot ini > Advanced where you can tell Windows how many cores you have that you want it to use. No-one ever does that! :(

Then there is a registry tweak, that installs the OS's Kernel into ram memory during boot up. With the Kernel running from RAM, instead of the much slower HD, overall system performance gets a real kick in the pants. No-One ever does that either. But I've been doing it for years and it does work.

Some AV scanners can be so demanding on a system, that it can seriously slow it down. Combine that with too much stuff running in the background and you have a real doggy system. I see that even on my own (9 yr old PC) system if I'm doing several scans at the same time. Normally I don't have anything running that's not absolutely, positively, 100% needed to run my PC.

I hope I've given you some ideas as to where to start troubleshooting your own system.
If you were close by, I'd just say bring it over here and I'll fix it for you. I've been a computer tech for 34 years.

good luck!
TechnoMage :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64
Knowing you computer make and model would help also modem or router.
It would appear that you may have problems with your modem or router, have you done a hard reset.

I have an HP Pavillion G6, amd 10, its not a router problem, trust me, My network adapter is a Ralink RT3290 802.11bgn Wi-fi Adapter and thats where the problem is going on connection wise but i feel its more because of the OS more than anything.

HP Pavilion g6-2288ca Notebook PC Product Specifications | HP® Support

its not your regular computer freeze, i've been troubleshooting this for a while, ive had this pc for a year, i took most of my files off it and put them on an external hard drive, i only had one anti virus program and it didnt run random scans. it like freezes then snaps back into action full effect for like 1 minutes then back to the bs. i ruled out a lot of stuff after extensive research before i wrote this message and or joined this forum

i will try what you have suggested though, thanks
 
Last edited:

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
TechnoMage said: I run a script, to shut down over 25 totally redundant Services.
Then if you look in the task manager, you'll find a lot of junk running that you don't need.....Schedulers, reminders, updaters, and the like. Those must all be shut off, and I normally do that when I'm setting up a new PC.

It takes a while, to properly set up a new PC. For instance, you might have a CPU with 6 cores, but by default, Windows will use just one. There is a setting in MSCONFIG > Boot ini > Advanced where you can tell Windows how many cores you have that you want it to use. No-one ever does that!

Then there is a registry tweak, that installs the OS's Kernel into ram memory during boot up. With the Kernel running from RAM, instead of the much slower HD, overall system performance gets a real kick in the pants. No-One ever does that either. But I've been doing it for years and it does work.

How about posting the script and reg tweak? I'd like to look at them and perhaps adopt some or all of what they do.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
TechnoMage said: I run a script, to shut down over 25 totally redundant Services.
Then if you look in the task manager, you'll find a lot of junk running that you don't need.....Schedulers, reminders, updaters, and the like. Those must all be shut off, and I normally do that when I'm setting up a new PC.

Disabling system services has risks that far outweigh the questionable benefits.

It takes a while, to properly set up a new PC. For instance, you might have a CPU with 6 cores, but by default, Windows will use just one. There is a setting in MSCONFIG > Boot ini > Advanced where you can tell Windows how many cores you have that you want it to use. No-one ever does that!

This is a well known myth. By default all available cores will be used. I have dual core CPU and have not done this modification. Yet Task Manager and multiple other utilities clearly show that both cores are being used.

Then there is a registry tweak, that installs the OS's Kernel into ram memory during boot up. With the Kernel running from RAM, instead of the much slower HD, overall system performance gets a real kick in the pants. No-One ever does that either. But I've been doing it for years and it does work.

By default the system controls how much of the kernel is in RAM exactly the same as for any other code or data. If the code or data is frequently used it will be in RAM. Otherwise it will be left on disk where it belongs. The setting forces all of the relevant code and data to remain in RAM at all time, even if it is never used. This is a crime against performance.

This setting has been grossly misrepresented on the Internet.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
How is your Virtual Memory set ?

screenshot_101.jpg

How is your free space ?

screenshot_102.jpg

How many startup programs ?

screenshot_102.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
How is your Virtual Memory set ?

View attachment 47176

How is your free space ?

View attachment 47177

How many startup programs ?

View attachment 47178

adjust for best performance: programs

automatically manage paging file for all size drives: checked

capacity: 672 GB

Used space: 545 GB

Free space: 127 GB

but the thing is none of this was changed back when my computer was working fast and i had substantial amount of less free space too, i had no problems before i updated to 8.1 but its not like the problems came right after i updated. I didn't have any major program installations or anything.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
Without knowing any of your specifics, I have to respond in the most general of terms. Sorry!

But generally, when a PC freezes it's because it's being called on to do more than the hardware is capable of.
A slow hard drive, or lack of sufficient RAM for the OS being run, are two possible causes. Then you have programs that are trying to gobble up RAM and not leaving enough for the other Services, TSR's and programs to run in.

For instance, Windows installs Many Services that almost NO-One would ever need, but there they are, running merrily in the background. I run a script, to shut down over 25 totally redundant Services.
Then if you look in the task manager, you'll find a lot of junk running that you don't need.....Schedulers, reminders, updaters, and the like. Those must all be shut off, and I normally do that when I'm setting up a new PC.

It takes a while, to properly set up a new PC. For instance, you might have a CPU with 6 cores, but by default, Windows will use just one. There is a setting in MSCONFIG > Boot ini > Advanced where you can tell Windows how many cores you have that you want it to use. No-one ever does that! :(

Then there is a registry tweak, that installs the OS's Kernel into ram memory during boot up. With the Kernel running from RAM, instead of the much slower HD, overall system performance gets a real kick in the pants. No-One ever does that either. But I've been doing it for years and it does work.

Some AV scanners can be so demanding on a system, that it can seriously slow it down. Combine that with too much stuff running in the background and you have a real doggy system. I see that even on my own (9 yr old PC) system if I'm doing several scans at the same time. Normally I don't have anything running that's not absolutely, positively, 100% needed to run my PC.

I hope I've given you some ideas as to where to start troubleshooting your own system.
If you were close by, I'd just say bring it over here and I'll fix it for you. I've been a computer tech for 34 years.

good luck!
TechnoMage :cool:

I have an HP Pavillion G6, amd 10, its not a router problem, trust me, My network adapter is a Ralink RT3290 802.11bgn Wi-fi Adapter and thats where the problem is going on connection wise but i feel its more because of the OS more than anything.

HP Pavilion g6-2288ca Notebook PC Product Specifications | HP® Support

its not your regular computer freeze, i've been troubleshooting this for a while, ive had this pc for a year, i took most of my files off it and put them on an external hard drive, i only had one anti virus program and it didnt run random scans. it like freezes then snaps back into action full effect for like 1 minutes then back to the bs. i ruled out a lot of stuff after extensive research before i wrote this message and or joined this forum

I dont see why i have to change so much to get it to run properly instead of finding a way to revert back to my original settings, it was running perfectly before. its not even a freezing per say its like my trackpad stops working for a little while despite being fully functional and even the simplest forms media take a long time to load before they start playing
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
You might want to do some cleanup:
  1. There is a folder under: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download where all Windows updates files were downloaded and installed. If you open this folder, you'll see a lot of files and folders.Make sure that Windows Updates is not running then go ahead and delete all the files/folders.
  2. Look under: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
    There is a file: Windows.edb which is the search index database for Windows Search feature, if this file is too big, sometimes it grows to many GB's in size then it can bring your Windows to its knee. Open Services and disable Windows Search service, delete it then re-enable the Windows Search Service to let Windows rebuild the Search Index.
  3. Download: TFC Temporary file removal tool and right click to run as Admin. This program will clean up all the temp files. During execution, it also kills some of the processes in order to clean up the temp files occupied by those processes. When finished, just sign out then sign back in.
  4. Download: Drive Tools for Windows Cleanup and right click and run as Admin to remove all the orphan devices.
  5. Open the elevated command prompt and run: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
  6. Next, run: sfc /scannow =======> if there's corupted system files, you need to run multiple times
  7. If everything is good so far: Win+X->System-> System Protection->Configure->Delete->OK
  8. click Create to Re-create a Restore Point to reflect your current system state
  9. Run: chkntfs /T:10 then run: chkdsk /r /f C: =====> Required reboot, and may take a while to complete
  10. Defrag/Optimize your C: drive.

Hope this helps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
You might want to do some cleanup:
  1. There is a folder under: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download where all Windows updates files were downloaded and installed. If you open this folder, you'll see a lot of files and folders.Make sure that Windows Updates is not running then go ahead and delete all the files/folders.
  2. Look under: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
    There is a file: Windows.edb which is the search index database for Windows Search feature, if this file is too big, sometimes it grows to many GB's in size then it can bring your Windows to its knee. Open Services and disable Windows Search service, delete it then re-enable the Windows Search Service to let Windows rebuild the Search Index.
  3. Download: TFC Temporary file removal tool and right click to run as Admin. This program will clean up all the temp files. During execution, it also kills some of the processes in order to clean up the temp files occupied by those processes. When finished, just sign out then sign back in.
  4. Download: Drive Tools for Windows Cleanup and right click and run as Admin to remove all the orphan devices.
  5. Open the elevated command prompt and run: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
  6. Next, run: sfc /scannow =======> if there's corupted system files, you need to run multiple times
  7. If everything is good so far: Win+X->System-> System Protection->Configure->Delete->OK
  8. click Create to Re-create a Restore Point to reflect your current system state
  9. Run: chkntfs /T:10 then run: chkdsk /r /f C: =====> Required reboot, and may take a while to complete
  10. Defrag/Optimize your C: drive.

Hope this helps.

after doing 1-4 my computer got back to running like rubbish again, but i got positive results from the command prompt after running sfc/ scannow (which i have run before) despite reverting back to not running well.

im stuck at 9 though, i ran chkntfs /T:10 and nothing happened, then i ran chkdsk /r /f C: and again nothing happened. i tried running these both through command prompt and the run function
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
chkntfs /T:10 will set the countdown time to 10 second, so that when the system reboot to run chkdsk will give you 10 second if you decide to abort chkdsk. The default was set to 1 sec., not enough time to hit <ESC> to abort. That's all it does. Type chkntfs /T will tell you the countdown is set to 10 sec.

What do you mean that chkdsk /r /f C: does not do anything ? It should prompt you that it will run on next restart, answer Y then restart the PC. see screen shot:

a.png

EDIT: One more thing I forgot to mention, download CCleaner to clean up the registry.

If still running slow: Open the taskbar->Startup, right click on each item and disable everything then restart the PC. Run the PC for a while to see if it improves then start enable one by one, restart the PC.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
chkntfs /T:10 will set the countdown time to 10 second, so that when the system reboot to run chkdsk will give you 10 second if you decide to abort chkdsk. The default was set to 1 sec., not enough time to hit <ESC> to abort. That's all it does. Type chkntfs /T will tell you the countdown is set to 10 sec.

What do you mean that chkdsk /r /f C: does not do anything ? It should prompt you that it will run on next restart, answer Y then restart the PC. see screen shot:

View attachment 47238

EDIT: One more thing I forgot to mention, download CCleaner to clean up the registry.

If still running slow: Open the taskbar->Startup, right click on each item and disable everything then restart the PC. Run the PC for a while to see if it improves then start enable one by one, restart the PC.

ok i got chkdsk to work in the prompt, and its not the fact my pc is slow for the most part , every piece of media takes so long to execute. i have to wait like 10 minutes before a video on youtube plays or the audio for a video in vlc player to play or a song to play on wmp or itunes. i think it has something to do with a media server of some sort idk, and i just get those momentary mouse freezes while the mouse can still click things as long as its over it when it freezes

even more to the mouse issue this is just on my trackpad, if i use a mouse it can move the cursor just not my trackpad and theres nothing individually wrong with my trackpad. and the connection on my wi fi adapter drops and its not my connection because i can run another older laptop with windows 7 on it side by side and i get 4-5 bars every time, here i just get 3 or 2
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
We've already know there is something wrong with your Laptop and causing it hosed up and we try to isolate the problem. What I need to know is did you do what I suggested. Did you let chkdsk run to the end ? Did you turn off everything in startup ?
you need to tell us that you have done with our suggestion so we have something to move on to the next step. Once the problem is found then everything should run normally.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
Back
Top