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  1. #41


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Damn, I hate laptops that lock you out of anything useful in the BIOS. Sounds like a lot of these machines that are freezing up are laptops. Is there a log somewhere kept by Windows error reporting that may shed a clue on this?

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  2. #42


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    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86


    Ya, if it's only freezing in normal mode but not freezing in safe mode, it is very likely a driver causing it. Perhaps an unnecessary driver such as GearASPIwdm.sys or just an older driver for your installed hardware that needs an update.
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  3. #43


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    When in doubt, BLAME THE VIDEO DRIVERS, heh. It was what bollixed up Vista and might be doing the same here. Try updating the driver or go back to an older driver. Next, my friend had USB 3.0 driver issues on his laptop so if you have them, try turning them off. Finally, see if there is a update for your network drivers besides on the manufacturer's web page. I had lockups due to networking issues (I think) so something to check.

    I had one problem with my ASUS P8P67 mobo about sleeping and o/c that was only fixed by a BIOS update (a year later mind)- hopefully, it will not come to that...
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  4. #44


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    Well, we can sort this out in a real way. How? Actually force a bsod to happen on purpose. Here is the simple way how:


    Launch the Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
    Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\i8042prt\Parameters.
    Go to Edit, select New | DWORD Value and name the new value CrashOnCtrlScroll.
    Double-click the CrashOnCtrlScroll DWORD Value, type 1 in the Value Data textbox, and click OK.
    Close the Registry Editor and restart Windows.

    When you want to cause a BSOD, press and hold down the [Ctrl] key on the right side of your keyboard, and then tap the [ScrollLock] key twice. Now you should see the BSOD.

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    Here's how you remove the BSOD configuration after BSOD happens:

    Launch the Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
    Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\i8042prt\Parameters.
    Select the CrashOnCtrlScroll value, pull down the Edit menu, and select the Delete command.
    Close the Registry Editor and restart.

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    Once it happens, C:\Windows\Minidump

    Copy/paste files from there to any other folder. Zip or rar them. Attach the zip or rar here....then we're on the way.
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  5. #45


    Heh, my laptop doesn't have a scroll lock key. Let me see if I can dig up a keyboard....

    EDIT: Ok, got my desktop's Sidewinder keyboard. Held right ctrl and pressed scroll lock twice and nothing happened.

    EDIT 2: As for video drivers, earlier in this thread, I updated my drivers to the latest stable version. It hasn't helped.
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  6. #46


    Posts : 37
    Windows 7


    Hmm. But, what good is a memory dump, if the BSOD is not caused by (e.g.) a problematic driver?
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  7. #47


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    Quote Originally Posted by nbulp View Post
    Hmm. But, what good is a memory dump, if the BSOD is not caused by (e.g.) a problematic driver?
    Simple. It shows all the drivers and dates. Even if there is only one suspect driver out of them all, I've been doing this so long, I would see it immediately.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 37
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by freelancer91 View Post
    Heh, my laptop doesn't have a scroll lock key. Let me see if I can dig up a keyboard....

    EDIT: Ok, got my desktop's Sidewinder keyboard. Held right ctrl and pressed scroll lock twice and nothing happened.

    EDIT 2: As for video drivers, earlier in this thread, I updated my drivers to the latest stable version. It hasn't helped.
    There is a new "Windows Update"-update for the network card! Try it! :O
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  9. #49


    Posts : 37
    Windows 7


    Crap :-\ It didn't help.
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  10. #50


    I know one way to trigger a BSoD. Back when I was hackintoshing, I found that if Windows was set up to run with the BIOS so that the SATA selection mode was ATA but it was switched to AHCI, then it would blue screen until it was switched back in the BIOS. I will try that now...
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