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Windows 8.1 return to Start (Metro).

  1. #1


    Posts : 8
    Windows 8.1

    Windows 8.1 return to Start (Metro).


    Hi everyone!

    I've just bought a new Dell desktop computer which came with Windows 8.1 preinstalled. I like using the new Start menu (Metro) and want to avoid Desktop mode as much as possible now, to avoid confusion and flicking between the two modes repeatedly. My Windows boots into Start (Metro), as I want, and then I open an application, for example Firefox or Outlook. So far so good. However after closing any application, I'm returned to Desktop mode. I then have to click on the Windows logo in the bottom left to return to the new Start menu.

    I've done some Google searches to find a resolution. I can find articles explaining how to boot directly into Desktop mode, however I cannot find any help on how to keep a desktop computer with a keyboard and mouse in Start (Metro) mode. Exiting an application should not return me to Desktop mode, it should return me to Start (Metro) mode.

    Is there a solution please?

    Thanks very much!

    Alice.

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Hello Aliceb. Welcome to 8 forums.

    There is a solution!
    You would have to complete windows updates to get to 8.1 update 1

    How do you know if you have updated to 8.1.1 (from 8.1)?

    Then right click on the taskbar to Taskbar and Navigation Properties - to Navigation tab

    Desktop or Start - When Sign in or Close apps in Windows 8

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    Last edited by Brink; 13 Jun 2014 at 12:03. Reason: added tutorial link for more info
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  3. #3


    Posts : 8
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks very much for your reply mdmd! I do have Windows 8.1 update 1 installed. I've checked by following the link you provided. I can also right click on the Taskbar to open Taskbar and Navigation Properties and see the option you have highlighted. In my case it is unchecked, and still this behavior is happening. Is there anything else I'm missing. I read something about programs like Firefox and Outlook not being 'Apps' as such, but don't know if this is relevant.

    Thank you!

    Alice.
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by aliceb View Post
    ... In my case it is unchecked, and still this behavior is happening. Is there anything else I'm missing. I read something about programs like Firefox and Outlook not being 'Apps' as such, but don't know if this is relevant.
    The return to the start screen (or apps screen) will only happen if closing a metro app like the "immersive browser" (metro IE) or metro weather / anything from the store. Desktop programs will always return to the desktop when closed.

    I don't use Firefox or Outlook but I think they are both desktop programs.

    Also, it's not really different than a hidden desktop menu.

    The desktop menu must be clicked or Winkeyed to view,
    the same with the Windows 8 modern / metro menu.

    If one closes a desktop "app" / program, it is necessary to press the winkey or
    use the Windows Switcher / edge UI thumb /
    or charms start flag to view the Windows 8 modern / metro menu.
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  5. #5


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    Windows 8.1


    Ah, that's what I feared. I don't think what I'm trying to do is possible. Windows 8.1 treats desktop programs differently. Perhaps a future update will rectify this problem.

    One other question please? I have another computer with Windows 7. I don't use Internet Explorer on it either, I use Firefox. Yet I notice Windows Update regularly downloads updates for Internet Explorer. Are these updates necessary if I don't actually use Internet Explorer? Again, I've done a Google search before wasting anyone's time, but all I come up with is ways to uninstall Internet Explorer from Windows 7 or Windows 8. Not sure if uninstalling it will stop updates for it, but it does logically follow. But can Firefox or Chrome users be affected by vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer?

    Thanks again for your time!

    Alice.
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    That's an area I would rather not get into. Perhaps a supporter / user of Firefox or Chrome would post.
    I only use IE. How do Firefox and Chrome get their security updates?

    As far as staying metro, not many would go that way. I stay metro most of the time while netting (metro IE),
    but do so much paint shop, screenshot editing and desktop video streaming that it is not really possible.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Hello Aliceb.

    Don't know ... just a thought ...
    Sometimes when there is a point made about switching between modes,
    often, many are not aware, just ...

    An adjustment to the visual effects can be made.
    Win + X - System - Advanced System Settings - Advanced - Performance - settings

    The start screen flip jarring effect can be disabled.

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  8. #8


    Quote Originally Posted by aliceb View Post
    Are these updates necessary if I don't actually use Internet Explorer?
    I would certainly install them. it possible something on the system will call functionality from IE from time to time, it would be best if it were there and patched. Also, if anybody else uses your computer they might use IE, so it's best to be patched.

    Your Firefox and Chrome should be safe without doing any IE updates. They update automatically on their own.
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  9. #9


    Hello, aliceb. Welcome to Windows Eight Forums.

    So far as I know mdmd is correct in that there is no tweak to return to Start Screen after closing desktop apps. While holding down the Windows key, press the period key, press the down arrow key, then release the Windows key. That hides the Desktop app, but doesn't close it. It never fully closes. It hides it. You can also drag it down like any Modern/Metro app, but it will remain in the switcher then reopen it using the mouse to slide out the Switcher Bar in the upper left hot corner or using the Windows key/D key combo. Using the key combination to hide it rids it in the switcher. The Windows key/D key combo is the only way to reopen using that hiding method.

    You can also hide the Desktop app with open Win32 Desktop apps on it using either hiding method as well. To drag it down you'll have to size them or minimize to the Taskbar to reach the top of the Desktop app, though. The Win32 apps will remain open to use again if need be.

    Please feel free to ask any questions if I haven't explained that well. It can be confusing.

    I think pparks1 has given good advice with IE updates even if you don't use it. It is an intricate part of the OS.

    Again, welcome.
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  10. #10


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    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    Instead of staying with Metro. You may want to try Start8 with Metromix. You can still run the Metro apps inside the desktop. But you can choose to have them in windowed mode, or full screen. Plus is that you can run multiple Metro apps along with Desktop apps inside the Desktop.

    There are some unresolved security issues still with Metro, that Microsoft has not resolved. Also there is issues with apps like Browsers, that do not work correctly inside the Metro.
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