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Never used win 8.1, considering buying laptop - any advice

  1. #1


    Colorado, Denver
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    Win 7 enterprise

    Never used win 8.1, considering buying laptop - any advice


    I found a pretty good deal on a laptop running Windows 8.1 and am considering purchasing it.
    My issue is I have never used Windows 8.1 and wonder how big a change it will be from Win 7.

    Is it possible to downgrade to Win7 from Win8.1?
    Does anyone have any advice? This is a laptop, not a tablet and I have heard Win8 is much better suited for a tablet.
    I have no intention of discarding my keyboard for using the LCD as a touchscreen interface.

    Should I re-consider my decision?

    Any feedback is appreciated.

    >>>>>

    Wanted to add some further information on how I plan to use the laptop.

    I want to use EssentialPIM ( Personal Information Manager to manage Outlook and Other MS Office 2010 files)
    Use skype for online learning (Russian Language)
    Load Russian Language / keyboard support.
    Use browser for research (language, culture and other misc. topics)
    Stream movies, videos etc.

    That is pretty much it.
    Can I do this with win8.1?
    Will it work with files created on a Win7 box with Office 2010?

    Again, TIF (Thanks in Advance)

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    It's been 2 hours and no one has ... yet.
    Touch is not necessary to use 8.
    If not immediately fascinated with the tiled start screen, find a way to stay with Windows 7.

    Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7

    How Do I Downgrade To Windows 7?

    Also, you could try 8.1 enterprise for free if you have an available HDD or SSD to install separately.

    Download Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation

    Have you tried using 8.1 at the retailer's sales desk?
    Are you familiar with imaging systems?

    System Image - Create in Windows 8
    Best Imaging Software Suggestions

    Windows 7 is familiar. Windows 8 is different.

    Difference Between Windows 7 and 8

    Also, search differences between 7 and 8 (Bing or Google or whatever)
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    8 is fine on a new machine. Use something like classic shell if you want a start menu. You don't have to give up the keyboard and use the touchscreen. I have numerous touch devices and I never touch them.
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    8 is fine on a new machine. Use something like classic shell if you want a start menu. You don't have to give up the keyboard and use the touchscreen. I have numerous touch devices and I never touch them.
    Perhaps it is but just adding a desktop menu does not make 8 into 7.
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    While a start menu does not make 8 into Windows 7, it makes it enough like Windows 7 that most people don't care. I want that embedded BIOS key with 8 as it makes it a breeze to reinstall and get activated. 8 boots faster and shuts down faster.

    Aside from driver issues, often caused by "upgrades", 8 is a solid OS under the hood if you can get around the visual differences. I'm using 8 now on all new computers at work and most have had no complaints adjusting with a few tweaks made ahead of time like installing Classic Shell.

    I'm about as likely to "downgrade" a Windows 8 box to Windows 7 as I am XP.
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    Posts : 1,720
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    @ urso:
    Many find Windows 8/8.1 intimidating and/or frustrating at first but if you stick to it for a couple weeks you can easily get the hang of it.
    There's lots of perfectly good tutorials on YouTube and other places, and also free guides; just Google a little bit for links.
    If you want to dive in deep check out 'Windows 8.1 Bible':
    Windows 8.1 Bible: Jim Boyce, Jeffrey R. Shapiro, Rob Tidrow: 9781118835319: Amazon.com: BooksLast but not least, if you have any questions, ask here; there's lots of knowledgeable folks here every day.
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    W8.1, W7


    Install Classic Shell (or other start menu restorer of your choice), and use it just like w7 (while you investigate what parts of ms' grandiose vision of metro\touch\tile-disney-world\app you may find useful). W8 can indeed behave and be used like a very good 'w7.2', just needs a little user interaction to add \ disable a few things.

    And remember, no need to use any MS account (and become a member of the MS Church of Apps) to install\activate\use w8. Works great here, the 'w7 part' is extremely stable, refined and reliable imo.
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm about as likely to "downgrade" a Windows 8 box to Windows 7 as I am XP.
    What?

    Click image for larger version

    Yeah. But what about those that say Windows 7 is perfect?
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    Install Classic Shell (or other start menu restorer of your choice), and use it just like w7 (while you investigate what parts of ms' grandiose vision of metro\touch\tile-disney-world\app you may find useful). W8 can indeed behave and be used like a very good 'w7.2', just needs a little user interaction to add \ disable a few things.

    And remember, no need to use any MS account (and become a member of the MS Church of Apps) to install\activate\use w8. Works great here, the 'w7 part' is extremely stable, refined and reliable imo.
    Funny, the CS is not a shell and was intended as a Windows 7 menu replacement.
    If a newbie doesn't know how to setup their system, they will be forced into an MS account.
    Then they will have to learn how to disable it and not learn how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm about as likely to "downgrade" a Windows 8 box to Windows 7 as I am XP.
    What?

    Click image for larger version

    Yeah. But what about those that say Windows 7 is perfect?
    I don't see a point in spending money to upgrade my windows 7 desktop machine at home....hence the reason it is still on Windows 7. It started out as a Windows 7 box and it has remained there. It was not a Windows 8 box that I downgraded.

    Notice above that I said, "8 was fine on a new machine". When you buy a new computer and it comes with Windows 8, I don't see a reason to not stick with it. Everything I have needed/wanted to do with it has worked, for my own personal work laptop (came with 8 pro), my wife's laptop (came with 8.0) and my kids laptop (came with 8.0), as well as approx 20 laptops at work and 5 all in one desktops.
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