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Win7 & Win 8 HDs. SWAP OS's across drives

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    Win7 & Win 8 HDs. SWAP OS's across drives


    I have Windows 7 on a 120 Gig SSD.
    I have Win8 on a 150 Gig HDD.

    I want to swap the OS's, putting 8 on the SSD, and 7 on the HDD.

    So far, I've made Ghost images of both drives, and the system reserved partitions.

    I have a boot-able thumbdrive, and multiple ways to make the ghost images available [External HD, Server, large Thumbdrives] so restoring them will not be an issue.

    The largest OS uese 89 Gigs, so that is not an issue, and I will redo several installs of software, but that's not important right now.

    Are there ANY concerns with doing such a swap?

    Suggestions to make it easier?

    I'd rather not, but I can change the connections of the SATA cables if I HAD to! The BIOS is pretty advanced, so I don't expect that to be an issue.

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    Hi there.

    Can't see what any problem is here

    Just in the BIOS change either the Disk priority to boot the OS you would prefer or simply at boot time use the BIOS prompt boot menu and choose which disk you want to boot (or external device !!).

    You can install your OS'es wherever you like -- personally I'd do it in such a way that each OS doesn't know about the other one so you won't see the other OS'es on the boot menu when you start up the OS.

    Note though be careful if you are "mixing" UEFI and Non UEFI systems -- provided PROTECTED BOOT is disabled and legacy boot checked there isn't a problem in mixing these -that's why I like having the OS'es totally on separate disks each unaware of the others existence.

    Depends of course on how you like to operate your machine. You could also consider having a PRIMARY OS and then keeping the other one as a Virtual machine --saves all the hoo ha about multiple / dual boot -- W7 can be "Moved" to a new machine --in this case your VM and re-activated usually without a problem unless it was an OEM copy.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Winders 8 was added later, not intending it to be considered the primary OS, that has now changed, mostly because MS is only making drivers that REALLY use my CPU available for Windows 8 over Windows 7. Originally, Windows 8 was accessible only through BIOS, but that has changed with time passing.

    That has caused the need [desire?] to move Windows 8 over to the SSD.

    Mixing? No. Those OS's were always on separate HDs, and the installs were done without the other OS even on the system [SSD was disconnected for the Windows 8 install]

    UEFI? Doesn't Win7[x64 Ult] and Win8[x64 Pro] both have UEFI?

    This is a simple family use machine. I'm moving the entire contents of each drive to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Winders 8 was added later, not intending it to be considered the primary OS, that has now changed, mostly because MS is only making drivers that REALLY use my CPU available for Windows 8 over Windows 7. Originally, Windows 8 was accessible only through BIOS, but that has changed with time passing.

    That has caused the need [desire?] to move Windows 8 over to the SSD.

    Mixing? No. Those OS's were always on separate HDs, and the installs were done without the other OS even on the system [SSD was disconnected for the Windows 8 install]

    UEFI? Doesn't Win7[x64 Ult] and Win8[x64 Pro] both have UEFI?

    This is a simple family use machine. I'm moving the entire contents of each drive to the other.
    You would have to look in Disk Management to verify that. Win 7 SP1 does support UEFI, However none of my win 7 machines are set up UEFI they are MBR. Where as win 8 can be set up MBR is usually sets up as UEFI GPT
    once you have full disk Images of both drives I would use Diskpart and Clean each disk that way if you have a mixed system the images will Restore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Winders 8 was added later, not intending it to be considered the primary OS, that has now changed, mostly because MS is only making drivers that REALLY use my CPU available for Windows 8 over Windows 7. Originally, Windows 8 was accessible only through BIOS, but that has changed with time passing.

    That has caused the need [desire?] to move Windows 8 over to the SSD.

    Mixing? No. Those OS's were always on separate HDs, and the installs were done without the other OS even on the system [SSD was disconnected for the Windows 8 install]

    UEFI? Doesn't Win7[x64 Ult] and Win8[x64 Pro] both have UEFI?

    This is a simple family use machine. I'm moving the entire contents of each drive to the other.
    You would have to look in Disk Management to verify that. Win 7 SP1 does support UEFI, However none of my win 7 machines are set up UEFI they are MBR. Where as win 8 can be set up MBR is usually sets up as UEFI GPT
    once you have full disk Images of both drives I would use Diskpart and Clean each disk that way if you have a mixed system the images will Restore.
    So Ghost image the entire drive, not the partitions?
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    Yes I would Image the whole drive. You can use Clonezilla to do that. You would just need a Network drive to put it onto. I use my Lenovo ix2 as a NFS share for backing up our computers, when I make any major changes to the OS. Or at least try every month to make a image backup.

    Todo Home will also work in your case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Winders 8 was added later, not intending it to be considered the primary OS, that has now changed, mostly because MS is only making drivers that REALLY use my CPU available for Windows 8 over Windows 7. Originally, Windows 8 was accessible only through BIOS, but that has changed with time passing.

    That has caused the need [desire?] to move Windows 8 over to the SSD.

    Mixing? No. Those OS's were always on separate HDs, and the installs were done without the other OS even on the system [SSD was disconnected for the Windows 8 install]

    UEFI? Doesn't Win7[x64 Ult] and Win8[x64 Pro] both have UEFI?

    This is a simple family use machine. I'm moving the entire contents of each drive to the other.
    You would have to look in Disk Management to verify that. Win 7 SP1 does support UEFI, However none of my win 7 machines are set up UEFI they are MBR. Where as win 8 can be set up MBR is usually sets up as UEFI GPT
    once you have full disk Images of both drives I would use Diskpart and Clean each disk that way if you have a mixed system the images will Restore.
    So Ghost image the entire drive, not the partitions?
    If you have any UEFI GPT disk Ghost will not be able to create a booting OS. If everything is BIOS MBR yes ghost the whole disk.
    If your Win 8 disk is GPT then get Macrium Reflect Free Version, there are other Imaging programs that will create bootable GPT disk Ghost is not one of them I don't think Symantec has any intention of upgrading to be able to restore a GPT disk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post

    You would have to look in Disk Management to verify that. Win 7 SP1 does support UEFI, However none of my win 7 machines are set up UEFI they are MBR. Where as win 8 can be set up MBR is usually sets up as UEFI GPT
    once you have full disk Images of both drives I would use Diskpart and Clean each disk that way if you have a mixed system the images will Restore.
    So Ghost image the entire drive, not the partitions?
    If you have any UEFI GPT disk Ghost will not be able to create a booting OS. If everything is BIOS MBR yes ghost the whole disk.
    If your Win 8 disk is GPT then get Macrium Reflect Free Version, there are other Imaging programs that will create bootable GPT disk Ghost is not one of them I don't think Symantec has any intention of upgrading to be able to restore a GPT disk.
    Is there a freeware version [A Ghost cloan] that does work?

    If I manage the drives, it appears that both drives are simply NTFS. GPT, isn't that for drives over 2TBs? The larger drives go on the server, the smaller drives are simply to hold the OS and things that cannot be installed on the server itself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post

    So Ghost image the entire drive, not the partitions?
    If you have any UEFI GPT disk Ghost will not be able to create a booting OS. If everything is BIOS MBR yes ghost the whole disk.
    If your Win 8 disk is GPT then get Macrium Reflect Free Version, there are other Imaging programs that will create bootable GPT disk Ghost is not one of them I don't think Symantec has any intention of upgrading to be able to restore a GPT disk.
    Is there a freeware version [A Ghost cloan] that does work?

    If I manage the drives, it appears that both drives are simply NTFS. GPT, isn't that for drives over 2TBs? The larger drives go on the server, the smaller drives are simply to hold the OS and things that cannot be installed on the server itself...
    Generally window 8 installs UEFI GPT, However it can run in MBR BIOS, All the new computers are UEFI have been since at least 2012 And Yes Macrium Reflect will work with any configuration and its free. You only need the paid version for file backup and Deploy to different hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoesMorgue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post

    If you have any UEFI GPT disk Ghost will not be able to create a booting OS. If everything is BIOS MBR yes ghost the whole disk.
    If your Win 8 disk is GPT then get Macrium Reflect Free Version, there are other Imaging programs that will create bootable GPT disk Ghost is not one of them I don't think Symantec has any intention of upgrading to be able to restore a GPT disk.
    Is there a freeware version [A Ghost cloan] that does work?

    If I manage the drives, it appears that both drives are simply NTFS. GPT, isn't that for drives over 2TBs? The larger drives go on the server, the smaller drives are simply to hold the OS and things that cannot be installed on the server itself...
    Generally window 8 installs UEFI GPT, However it can run in MBR BIOS, All the new computers are UEFI have been since at least 2012 And Yes Macrium Reflect will work with any configuration and its free. You only need the paid version for file backup and Deploy to different hardware.
    Different hardware? Can you elaborate? I make make images on a single machine, and restore with them on a USB-to-SATA adapter. If on the same machine, is that the same hardware? [I'm about to overhaul my server...]
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