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Alternative layouts for start bar (too many programs!)

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    Alternative layouts for start bar (too many programs!)


    I find it irritating to have to scroll to "page 2" of the start bar using the little arrows.
    Just because I have a lot of programs open at the same time.
    Is there anyway that I can get all open programs to display on the same "page" of the bar?
    I think it used to be possible in earlier versions of windows.

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    For Metro, you just need to make up folders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martienne View Post
    Is there anyway that I can get all open programs to display on the same "page" of the bar?
    I think it used to be possible in earlier versions of windows.
    What do you mean by start bar? Start Screen? Or Taskbar?

    You would like to view OPEN programs?

    on the same "page" of the bar?
    Have you tried the Windows Switcher ? Alt + Tab / Tab / Tab or Ctrl Alt Tab / Tab etc...

    "Window Switcher" Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

    Switcher Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

    Switcher - Enable or Disable Top Left Corner in Windows 8

    Switcher - Open in Windows 8

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    Last edited by mdmd; 14 May 2014 at 13:14.
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    mdmd, they are talking about the Metro Interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    mdmd, they are talking about the Metro Interface.
    ok. hope so, but either way, the windows switcher shows open programs anywhere.
    As my pic shows, > the switcher on the start screen.

    Still, Startbar ?

    I have my own quirks about some things.
    Like clicks, ... I click thousands of times a day, so I don't have issues with working the system.
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    Also, what does the thread starter mean by open ?...
    Often, on this global forum, English is not the first language.

    Configuring the start screen to eliminate the 2nd page, if that is of interest, requires unpinning.
    If it is an issue to visit the apps view screen, ... oh well, best of luck.
    And if the edge UI is disabled, then thumbnail switching is disabled.

    As far as making up folders, I have done that and
    loaded the apps view with hundreds of shortcuts all of which are available in search by a few key entries.
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    I would still like a definition of "Start bar" or at least a picture of it. It may be a new feature I'm not familiar with.
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    I’m quite sure the OP is referring to the Start Screen for the “little arrows” are mentioned. They and the scroll bar are quite small on it.

    There will be those that disagree, but a keyboard is faster at navigation in Windows than a mouse (except when it comes to browsers). Always has been IMO. It is truer in 8.x than ever before. I’m beginning to see that we “keyboarders” are able to adapt to the new UI easier whereas the “mousers” are frustrated. This is not to say that it’s not Ok to use the mouse > To each their own, however if one is going to use that peripheral then learn all the mouse gestures that are available.

    Every now and then I’ll use the mouse for about a week just to learn what’s new. No need to use the scroll bar, the “little arrows”, or scroll wheel at all when on the Start Screen. Simply roll the mouse right (then left again for return if necessary). Mouse and keyboard: What's new in Windows - Microsoft Windows Help

    We keyboarders would simply use the arrow keys, Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End keys, or a combination of them when on the Start Screen. Mdmd mentioned Alt/Tab for switcher, of which I use all the time.

    With that I’ll post this with Alt/S. J
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I’m quite sure the OP is referring to the Start Screen for the “little arrows” are mentioned. They and the scroll bar are quite small on it.

    There will be those that disagree, but a keyboard is faster at navigation in Windows than a mouse (except when it comes to browsers). Always has been IMO. It is truer in 8.x than ever before. I’m beginning to see that we “keyboarders” are able to adapt to the new UI easier whereas the “mousers” are frustrated. This is not to say that it’s not Ok to use the mouse > To each their own, however if one is going to use that peripheral then learn all the mouse gestures that are available.

    Every now and then I’ll use the mouse for about a week just to learn what’s new. No need to use the scroll bar, the “little arrows”, or scroll wheel at all when on the Start Screen. Simply roll the mouse right (then left again for return if necessary). Mouse and keyboard: What's new in Windows - Microsoft Windows Help

    We keyboarders would simply use the arrow keys, Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End keys, or a combination of them when on the Start Screen. Mdmd mentioned Alt/Tab for switcher, of which I use all the time.

    With that I’ll post this with Alt/S. J
    Old school, eh ? I use whatever is under my hand at the time but I prefer mouse, just can't get bothered remembering all the shortcuts (yeah, I know, getting old and never learned to type without looking at the keyboard). I was ecstatic when I started using Atari ST just because of the mouse.
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    Hi there
    this is where the Classical menu helps.

    What I actually suggest you do is use CUSTOM TOOLBARS

    I think I had a thread on it

    Creating Usable Pgm toolbar WITH sub menus


    Now apparently in the Windows update 2 we *might* be able to launch metro apps also so there's no reason why you couldn't extend this method as well -- what you need to do is find the name of the Metro executable app and link it into your custom toolbar.

    The metro app can be pinned to the quick launch taskbar so it's only a question of finding out what the executable is.
    This method works and DOESN'T NEED any 3rd party apps or Registry hacks !!!!!

    (Tested on Windows 8.1 -- can't say though on W8 but in theory should work).

    To Launch from the desktop -- I'm still playing with this but if you in CMD mode (user - you don't need elevated / enhanced mode so you can make a script to execute it easily) simply type

    explorer shell:Appsfolder\application name where application name is determined from APPUSERMODELID

    you'll see all the apps including metro apps - click on your choice. However I'm still working on getting just the METRO apps into my custom toolbar.

    Press F10 / Hit View ==>choose details and click the 3 boxes Name, Long Display name, AppuserModelID

    now choose display DETAILS in the file explorer and you'll see the extra columns including the APPuserModelID


    From this point it's now easy -- you simply right mouse click on your desktop and create shortcut =>new

    type in the script - for example the Sports application

    explorer shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.BingSports_8wekyb3d8bbwe!AppexSports

    This will appear on your desktop -- I need to sort out sensible icons for these but it works !! -- excuse the Printer icon but I'm just testing

    The idea is to add these to my custom toolbar - so I can also CASCADE these at will.


    Now working on getting these apps on to a custom decent toolbar.


    watch typing errors - however if you browse into your standard user (home) folder documents==>appdata==>local==>Microsoft==>windows==>application short cuts you should see the metro stuff so right click==properties now you can copy and paste !!!.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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