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No way will PC's die and be replaced by tablets

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    CountMike, all valid points. But most will trade loss of overclocking capability if they can travel easily with their laptop. I like being able to move the laptop around the house, and take outside and sit on the porch.
    And that's why I have both laptops, desktops and tablets Parks. Add to the mix a portable hard drive or three, and I'm all set to go traveling. When I'm going to be closer to home, I'll take one of my tablets with me. And, yes, I know that not everyone can afford some of each but I've been lucky. I do tend to keep stuff longer since I'm retired, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm not much of an upgrader, I just end up replacing the whole thing. Then I give the old one to my kids or somebody in need.
    I'm lucky in that most of my desktops (except the current HP) were built long ago and upgraded as needed. A mobo here, RAM, there, video card another time, etc. I've retired several beta systems over the years and have had no problem finding someone of the senior persuasion who would like to upgrade. Yep, my castoffs are an upgrade for some!

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  2. #32


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    CountMike, all valid points. But most will trade loss of overclocking capability if they can travel easily with their laptop. I like being able to move the laptop around the house, and take outside and sit on the porch.
    And that's why I have both laptops, desktops and tablets Parks. Add to the mix a portable hard drive or three, and I'm all set to go traveling. When I'm going to be closer to home, I'll take one of my tablets with me. And, yes, I know that not everyone can afford some of each but I've been lucky. I do tend to keep stuff longer since I'm retired, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm not much of an upgrader, I just end up replacing the whole thing. Then I give the old one to my kids or somebody in need.
    I'm lucky in that most of my desktops (except the current HP) were built long ago and upgraded as needed. A mobo here, RAM, there, video card another time, etc. I've retired several beta systems over the years and have had no problem finding someone of the senior persuasion who would like to upgrade. Yep, my castoffs are an upgrade for some!
    Yep, I have all those too. I just don't use my desktop at home hardly anymore. Mostly my MacBook pro now, or my Windows 8 work laptop. Have an original surface pro at work with type cover, but don't use that either. Wife had windows 8 touchscreen laptop, but mostly uses her iPad Air. Wife and I both have Samsung galaxy s3s. We have an Asus transformer droid tablet which mostly the kids use, and my daughter uses my wife's old iPhone.
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  3. #33


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    My apologies, if I touched off a holy war. After putting together the cheapest laptop with a quad core processor, 4GB, Windows 8.1 and a touch screen, my guess was that building an equivalent desktop for the $380 price would be a challenge. After checking out 1 site, $485 was the cheapest desktop, which I could make. I was curious if anyone could make one cheaper. Discovering that any laptop would be cheaper than an equivalent desktop was a surprise to me.

    Thank you for all of the feedback.
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  4. #34


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Quite a collection Patrick. How come you have no Linux systems.
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  5. #35


    Texas
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by JHough View Post
    My apologies, if I touched off a holy war. After putting together the cheapest laptop with a quad core processor, 4GB, Windows 8.1 and a touch screen, my guess was that building an equivalent desktop for the $380 price would be a challenge. After checking out 1 site, $485 was the cheapest desktop, which I could make. I was curious if anyone could make one cheaper. Discovering that any laptop would be cheaper than an equivalent desktop was a surprise to me.

    Thank you for all of the feedback.
    You didn't touch off a holy war, J Hough; it seems I did by saying I much prefer the comfort of my desktop to a laptop. And don't even mention that I consider a tablet the last 'puter I'd turn on. However, it seems I only ticked off one person. Too bad . . .

    My philosophy is to each his own, and I don't make any attempt to change anyone's mind about which type of system he/she prefers to use. I say to figure out how much money you have and then go for the best product you can find that will fit your needs.

    As to the cheapest way to go when building a desktop, rather than a new build, I rebuild. For the most part, the monitor, case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, hard drives, and sometimes even the video card can remain the same while installing a new motherboard, RAM, etc.
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  6. #36


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quite a collection Patrick. How come you have no Linux systems.
    Well, I support a ton of Linux VM's at work. My work laptop runs Windows 8, as I need to be able to run the Office suite and manage our active directory environment and everything in it, so for my work laptop, it's basically gotta be Windows. But it does have a myriad of Linux VM's on it, mostly CentOS and none with GUI's.

    My home desktop, is also my gaming machine. Thus, it runs Windows. It's still on 7 becuase #1), I seem to rarely ever use it and #2) couldn't see paying money to upgrade it to 8 since it won't really benefit me in any way.

    My new laptop is a MacBook Pro. Wanted to learn something new. Wanted something that slept and woke from sleep nearly instantly. And wanted something most compatible with some side volunteer work that I do mixing audio. The MacBook was the perfect fit there.

    My wife and my kids both have Windows 8 touchscreen laptops. Both machines came with Windows pre-loaded and I had no overwhelming need to change that.

    I do have 2 other desktop Linux systems at home, but they haven't been used in quite some time either. I guess it's mostly because I do so much with Linux at work that when I come home these days I don't want to do the same things. I'm more or less perfectly content just browsing some forums, reading emails and posting on facebook these days. Too many other activities with my kids, and outside interests, volunteer work, running, biking, etc.
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  7. #37


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Thanks for the tour. Soumds like the pizza baker who does not want to eat pizza for dinner, LOL.
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  8. #38


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    I did not read the whole thread and will state...

    I have always said that Tablets will NOT replace Desktops.
    Those consumers that are doing so are in the minority, and many will eventually get a Desktop again, if they got rid of theirs.
    Or, they will get a nicer Laptop with a Docking station and a 21in screen.

    There is no substitute for a 21in+ screen for computing, even doing consuming stuff like FB&T
    These, in most cases will, if they are tech savvy enough, hook to their TV for streaming. (Is what I do)

    However, for travel, I have a 17in Inspiron 1764 that use to go everywhere with me.
    Now it stays home and I take my Surface Pro.

    I take the same laptop case with all my cables (HDMI, RCA etc) for when staying in Hotels to hook up to the tv there, if possible.
    If not,, the screen on the Surface Pro is adequate enough for watching movies.

    The future will continue to see people with Desktop or more Powerful Docked Laptop in the home, and a Tablet and Smart Phone for travel.

    You will also see BYOD doing the same.
    Tablets for travel and docked laptop (maybe a bit of travel with it as well where needed) at home.

    This will be more the norm than anything going forward.

    And again,, I keep saying it, but Unified Apps are going to play a big part in that.
    In most cases,, Buy Once and run on everything, or pay a fee for other devices.
    (Phone, Tablet, Laptop, Dekstop, xBox, etc.) all running the same code, with optimized for device GUI.
    Same Data, same options, same everything.

    P.S. Check my specs of my desktop, I doubt there is a Laptop or tablet that can touch it.
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  9. #39


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    There is one important design point for tablets - they do not have active cooling. That reduces their choices for CPUs and GPUs enormously.

    My T100 tablet has a quad core Atom processor that uses 2 Watts. The new high end AMD 8-core processors use 220 Watts. No way will such a processor ever live without active cooling. Even air cooling is not enough - you need liquid cooling.

    High end PSUs are the same problem. They make a lot of heat. So until they come up with high end processors (4 GHz or more) that run a 2 Watts or something like that, there is no threat for high end desktops. But they can compete with desktops that run on modest Celeron processors.
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Holly laptop Batman, what a desktop machine I can make for 4000 bucks !!! That laptop would look like calculator !!!
    Is it even possible to spend $4000. building a desktop...??
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