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Windows Update via Control Panel differs from PC Settings

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    Texas
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    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,

    Windows Update via Control Panel differs from PC Settings


    Friends - I have been just "putting up" with this but my OCD nature is getting the better of me.
    On a newish Lenovo laptop with 8.1 installed, a laptop that does not stay "On" all the time but powered off, then started fresh for use: Windows Update accessed from Desktop mode via Control Panel will often show "no updates" and no issues/problems/etc either. Windows Update accessed via PC Settings in "Windows 8 mode" will [after a protracted search during which the screen/tile is locked].

    why? what's the point?
    is it a bug? is there a way to have one instead of 2 [apparent] Win Update applets/utils?

    One other nuisance I have that may or may not be related: at the Lock Screen I will see the message "There are updates - Go to PC Settings and install". A number of times I have followed that kindly suggestion via PC Settings and returned with no updates. Is that a spurious message?

    My setting is currently "notify but don't install".

    thanks for your help

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    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    wow hard to read, so i apologies, because i had to much chocolate easter egg juice ,set it to download and install ,and forget about its,for over a year now i have had mine set to do that without Nari an issue,enjoy your computer ,just plug it and use it ,lol
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    I've noticed the same problem -- but since I use Desktop mode ALL the time, I just use the one in Control Panel.
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    Texas
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    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,


    so we just miss updates, declare victory, and move ahead full steam! ??

    sometimes that will work in our favor... and sometimes I suspect not

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    I've noticed the same problem -- but since I use Desktop mode ALL the time, I just use the one in Control Panel.
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    Both updates show the same at my computer and it is set to just notify about updates.
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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by cognus View Post
    so we just miss updates, declare victory, and move ahead full steam! ??

    sometimes that will work in our favor... and sometimes I suspect not

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    I've noticed the same problem -- but since I use Desktop mode ALL the time, I just use the one in Control Panel.
    i don't miss updates ,if i were to check i would have all the latest updates
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    Texas
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    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,


    lock screen: "you have important updates..."
    Desktop>Control Panel>Windows Updates: "your system is up to date"
    PC Settings>Updates etc>Windows Update: "searching for updates".... 12 minutes later "37 updates found"


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cognus View Post
    so we just miss updates, declare victory, and move ahead full steam! ??

    sometimes that will work in our favor... and sometimes I suspect not

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    I've noticed the same problem -- but since I use Desktop mode ALL the time, I just use the one in Control Panel.
    i don't miss updates ,if i were to check i would have all the latest updates
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by cognus View Post
    lock screen: "you have important updates..."
    Desktop>Control Panel>Windows Updates: "your system is up to date"
    PC Settings>Updates etc>Windows Update: "searching for updates".... 12 minutes later "37 updates found"
    The version I start by right clicking the white flag will do the same thing if you select search. The system searches for updates at its scheduled time. If the updates are added after that, it will find them until the next day. I have seen instances where the update utility will not even search for updates until a search is manually requested.

    Fairly often, although some updates are found, they have to wait for other updates to be available and possibly installed before the new ones will be offered.

    I will check and see if there is a difference in what happens using the different (or same) options.
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    Texas
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    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,


    Thanks Salt. It is a minor annoyance but still annoying
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    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64


    I just checked the WindowsUpdate.log after doing the search using the App and the Desktop utilities. Other than a difference in the GUID of the Caller and another ID= number, the basic steps appear to be the same.

    I leave my settings on Download but don't install. I like to see what is being installed in case something like Bing or some device driver sneaks in.
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