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A little rude Of MS

  1. #1


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64

    A little rude Of MS


    I did my research before I installed 8.1 for the first time a few weeks ago after using 7 for years.
    I made sure I removed all traces of cloud, once during install (turning of at instal option) and once after reading tutorials in here before I loaded anything else.

    Yesterday I reinstalled because I think I know enough to do a clean job, I did a UEFI install.

    Low and behold, the computer starts up with my previous installed background, and all the Start menu headings were as they were before I reinstalled. WTH?

    I went online and the cloud storage for my account is empty on onedrive. How did this happen? I am completely dumbfounded and really feel that my privacy has been invaded due to the fact I ticked all the boxes and said NO!

    Anyone have any clues?

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  2. #2


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    I will attempt to explain, if it isn't to far off HG will come along and correct me (hopefully. . .
    Ok when you set up your MS account all the info was saved on the main MS OS computers (servers) thus storing all your OS information just in case you do either a reinstall or a refresh. One Drive is only for documents and other stuff that you want to save to in the cloud. Hope that helps (even a little). . .
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  3. #3


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I will attempt to explain, if it isn't to far off HG will come along and correct me (hopefully. . .
    Ok when you set up your MS account all the info was saved on the main MS OS computers (servers) thus storing all your OS information just in case you do either a reinstall or a refresh. One Drive is only for documents and other stuff that you want to save to in the cloud. Hope that helps (even a little). . .
    I find that a pretty big invasion. I didn't allow them to do that, did I? The names of my Start Screen Groups are pretty offensive, for whatever reason. The desktop was also a rather personal photo of family. I find this incredibly rude. Last time I looked they weren't allowed to retrieve any information without at least my agreeing, and I am sure I read the important parts of any TOS via sites that look out for consumers.
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    Posts : 1,720
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I don't know if this has anything to do with it but, this is another way MS keeps your info on servers:

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  5. #5


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Yeah and there is always this and its always been off. never on. And the network cable gets unplugged until all online related settings are switched off.

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  6. #6


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64


    I think I am actually really peeved off. if I am having trouble and I have used their operating systems for over 20 years, imagine what the average joe is relaying to them without being privy. The "ON" switches are all over the OS and you have to google to find half of them.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro


    The names of my Start Screen Groups are pretty offensive, for whatever reason. The desktop was also a rather personal photo of family.
    That information was either retrieved directly from your previous settings (as identified by Lee and Edwin) or your MS account has been hacked. However, if you were using anything but a retail ISO, I would have done a SHA1 check to ensure the integrity of the ISO before attempting any installation with same. Live and learn.
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    I'm confused, the only way that stuff would have come along was if you logged on with a Microsoft account. Nobody who is anti cloud would log in that way.

    Are you not using a local account?
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  9. #9


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    The names of my Start Screen Groups are pretty offensive, for whatever reason. The desktop was also a rather personal photo of family.
    That information was either retrieved directly from your previous settings (as identified by Lee and Edwin) or your MS account has been hacked. However, if you were using anything but a retail ISO, I would have done a SHA1 check to ensure the integrity of the ISO before attempting any installation with same. Live and learn.
    I have an OEM bought with an SSD from my stockist. I save $100 per operating system this way and I always buy new hardware. I don't know how it works anywhere else but in Australia all you need to buy to get an OEM OS is a piece of hardware that makes up a PC e.x. CD ROM HDD RAM etc, either or.

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm confused, the only way that stuff would have come along was if you logged on with a Microsoft account. Nobody who is anti cloud would log in that way.

    Are you not using a local account?
    As much as I really am anti-cloud I am not dumb enough to see that sooner rather than later I am having to go that way. As it is Photoshop is expensive enough but if I want to stay up to date I am eventually going to have to embrace the cloud aspect of computing.

    I did install using an MS Account purely to save myself time formatting in the next 12 months. With all the software I use (which is why the big system) it takes me a good 3 days to load, update, configure. An image for me has to last at least 12 months otherwise its to the nut house.

    So, I assumed within 12 months I will of had to of embraced cloud, but I was hoping to do it on my terms. There are things I would store on cloud and things I wouldn't. My images are one thing I wouldn't.
    So, having disabled everything cloud in windows 8 before connecting to the net (after initial sign in during install) I embarked on turning it all off. Only then did I plug in, update etc. I'll embrace it when I think I understand it and have 99% control over it.

    Until then its a few calls to confirm that absolutely nothing is left online. I don't mind being called naive, I do mind liberties being taken. i believe I covered every track for this not to of happened.
    Doesn't anybody else think that the way they have spread control over cloud throughout the PC settings and not just in one place taking liberties?
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  10. #10


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    If you used you Microsoft account as your log-in profile for the system, that it'll restore some of your previous setting.

    Bear in mind the MS user account is different from the OneDrive (SkyDrive) account in that the OneDrive account is mainly for syncing of files and folders you choose. The MS account is basically your established profile. So yes, disabling the OneDrive features wouldn't have done anything for the MS account.

    I've two Windows 8.1 machines and when I change the wallpaper on one, the other is automatically updated to the same wallpaper. If I download an app on one machine, it'll be available to the other. That's the power of you MS account under the OS. Nothing nefarious here.

    As for the invasion of privacy... you did accept certain conditions when you chose to have a MS account. If you feel they are being nefarious, and don't trust them, use a local account.

    My two cents.
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