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Windows Phone 8 queries from an Android user

  1. #31


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    The other day I got some program updates via WiFi. I don't recall a system update though. But maybe there was none.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    You can get the updates if you're tied to a carrier on wifi if you want. The carriers just authorize the release of the updates from Microsoft to their customers. If you're not tied to a carrier, it will just be more from Microsoft or either Nokia. Or, if you have an att handset but don't use att, you're still hooked on att's ignorance.
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  3. #33


    Wow, Cokie. You dislike AT&T I see. Why not dislike them all like me? They're all slime corps. Vz being the worse. We should all do what whs is doing to bypass them all.

    Having had cell phones for many years, I'm ignorant to jail breaking. I looked into it once with my Droid X2 on Vz, but was afraid to goof things up. I was running a business and didn't want to face the consequences. Time factor with it all also.

    Retired now, so I give two hoots. Is it possible to do so now to obtain 8.1 upgrade through the developers offer?

    I'll post this on whs's thread to continue there.
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  4. #34


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I still have to deal with ATT for the landline and DSL. But there I had very few problems. And now I found the trick for DSL. Every May when we leave for Europe I cancel the DSL and reapply in November. Then I always get their special offer at $19.95 for the first year which I actually only use for 6 months.

    The only downside is that I have to wait a couple of days in November without DSL until the technician comes to the house to reconnect the DSL. You would think that they have a more advanced technology to connect someone with a landline (that one I keep because of the alarm system).
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  5. #35


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Wow, Cokie. You dislike AT&T I see. Why not dislike them all like me? They're all slime corps. Vz being the worse. We should all do what whs is doing to bypass them all.

    Having had cell phones for many years, I'm ignorant to jail breaking. I looked into it once with my Droid X2 on Vz, but was afraid to goof things up. I was running a business and didn't want to face the consequences. Time factor with it all also.

    Retired now, so I give two hoots. Is it possible to do so now to obtain 8.1 upgrade through the developers offer?

    I'll post this on whs's thread to continue there.
    Noo...I don't like att nor Verizon. T-Mobile would be nice to use if they had service everywhere like att.

    As for the developer preview, super easy.

    All you need to know about the Windows Phone 8.1 'Preview for Developers' | Windows Phone Central

    This has the WHOLE run down of it. Basically, you need to register your Microsoft Account with the Windows Phone App Studio (free to do). Afterwards, you will need to download the Dev Center for your handset and sign into your account with that. The only issue I had was that the app wasn't recognizing my account as a developer one. I had to tinker around on the website to see if something was weird or something. But anyways, simple to do and after that, you'll get the first primer update for 8.1 and it'll restart. After, you should get the 8.1 update. That first primer update takes about 10 minutes as it has to mitigate your data and whatnot.

    The 8.1 update takes almost 40 minutes altogether to download on wifi and install (you'll obviously need wifi for 8.1).
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  6. #36


    Posts : 40
    Windows 8.1


    But may i ask: If my Lumia 920 is unlocked & totally SIM-free (which most phones in the UK are anyway) the updates won't be too much "network dependent" isn't it?
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  7. #37


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Mine I could set whether to update via the carrier (which I don't have) or the internet.
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  8. #38


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I've found Android to be pretty friendly with Windows 8. As far as a Windows 8 Phone, my only concern would be Store Apps. I do know that VLC Remote has a Windows 8 version now, but as far as Office, I think the only Office apps, and especially the new Word app, at least on iOS which I use, all require an Office 365 account. I use Pages and I import them into Office 2013, and that is free which beats a 99 buck a year subscription. I also store docs in my OneNote and Onedrive, so I can open em up on all of my devices and computers.

    I think your best bet would be the Windows 8 phone with OneNote, and OneDrive, and you'll be able to move Docs around - But there is no free Word editor like there is with Pages for iOS. Pages is not Word, but I've gotten used to it. Or you an splurge and get an Office 365 account and then you'll be able to edit docs from anywhere, I think it would be a valid business expense.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    I've found Android to be pretty friendly with Windows 8. As far as a Windows 8 Phone, my only concern would be Store Apps. I do know that VLC Remote has a Windows 8 version now, but as far as Office, I think the only Office apps, and especially the new Word app, at least on iOS which I use, all require an Office 365 account. I use Pages and I import them into Office 2013, and that is free which beats a 99 buck a year subscription. I also store docs in my OneNote and Onedrive, so I can open em up on all of my devices and computers.

    I think your best bet would be the Windows 8 phone with OneNote, and OneDrive, and you'll be able to move Docs around - But there is no free Word editor like there is with Pages for iOS. Pages is not Word, but I've gotten used to it. Or you an splurge and get an Office 365 account and then you'll be able to edit docs from anywhere, I think it would be a valid business expense.
    Office comes prebuilt into Windows Phone and is free unlike ios.
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  10. #40


    Quote Originally Posted by gino76ph View Post
    But may i ask: If my Lumia 920 is unlocked & totally SIM-free (which most phones in the UK are anyway) the updates won't be too much "network dependent" isn't it?
    Rant > This is why I think carriers are slime here in the U.S. Because cell phones are so popular here now they approach manufacturers leveraging muscle with “exclusive” agreements that really aren’t favorable to us consumers. The astronomical prices of handsets are way out of hand. As much as 300 to 600% markup! Then charging for subsidizing those overpriced handsets via a contract that they make sound like such a good deal. Forcing consumers to include data service in their plans just because they buy a smart phone vs dumb phone > Data plans that are outrageous in cost. Things like that. It has gotten better since prepay companies have popped up to take some costumers away. At least the slime are offering prepay plans now. Rant over.

    Perhaps we need to think of it this way; the phone is actually serviced by four separate entities.

    1) We have the manufacturer that supplies firmware and software updates; firmware meaning any MoBo firmware and/or drivers?; software meaning their apps.
    2) Microsoft with the OS, their apps, and/or perhaps drivers?
    3) Slime ball carrier and their firmware and apps; firmware meaning anything to do with radio telecommunications and/or the SIM card here in the USA anyway.
    4) Third-party Store apps that are either preinstalled or that we install. These, of course, go through MS.

    How this is all agreed upon and distributed I really have no idea.
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