slow loading of explorer file lists

thatmanbrian

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When an application lets me browse a folder to find a file, the window it opens always displays files in name order even though the sort by date column is set in Explorer. Eventually (ofter after two minutes!) the display rearranges itself into date order. Related is this:

Just using Windows and changing drives in Explorer there is a considerable lag either before the folder opens, or the folder opens empty and a progress bar c r a w l s along the address bar.

I have five hard drives and many folders have have sub folders with many files in each. So I know there are a lot of files to manage. But it seems as if Windows isn't prefetching or caching or something and is starting from scratch every time. Once windows has opened a folder, surely it should remember, even after a power-off?
 

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Are you trying to access network shares? If it is an issue of just the computer itself. The question is, how many files & folders are in those folders you are trying to access.
 

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Do you allow Windows to turn off you hard drives? I do and I know that slows things down a lot.
 

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Thanks for the replies. The drives are all in one standalone computer. Windows doesn't make it easy to analyze the number of folders and files in each but as an example, on one drive is 16 root level folders and one of those folders has 54 subfolders each containing a few dozen files. Typical of the whole drive, so quite a load. But they are 2 Tb drives and are all only half full. Windows seems to struggle with this.

Is the answer to strip out a couple of drives and prune the remainder? Sounds ridiculous to me. Would Linux cope better?
 

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Again, it really depends on how many files are in the folders. Even Linux takes a long time to load folders with tens of thousands of files in them.
 

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    A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
I'm sure that's right. I am going to search for some utility that will analyse my drives and report on numbers of files and folders. I may need to subdivide further. But it makes a nonsense of having 2Tb drives doesn't it?
 

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    SATA 3 SSD, SATA 2 5 drives total 6Tb

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Thank you, I checked and there was a thumbnail db cache set up but to be sure I downloaded the reg file to enable it too and will see if it helps.
 

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    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD HD5700
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    HPLP2475w, AOC
    Hard Drives
    SATA 3 SSD, SATA 2 5 drives total 6Tb
My problem is, when i am on an application that would require me to explore files, only icons are displayed and not the thumbnails.
But when I open file thru file explorer, there is no problem, the thumbnails show up.

Thanks in advance for the assistance
 

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I can't help, but it sounds like the same issue. Applications opening an Explorer window are not picking up configuration data? But who's error is that??
 

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    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD HD5700
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    HPLP2475w, AOC
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    SATA 3 SSD, SATA 2 5 drives total 6Tb
Did you change the view in the explorer dialog?

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SetView1.jpg
 

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    Lenovo
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    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
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Thatmanbrian,
it could be that Windows is trying to optimize your file lists before you actually see them onscreen, which was a carryover bug from vista, try rt-clicking the folders (or parent) you are having problems with, go to customize, and then choose Optimize this folder for General Items - make sure you turn on the option to apply to subfolders. This may take awhile, but afterwards it should speed things up for you as it will re-write your registry BagsMRU settings that often become unruley with a lot of files/folders.

If that doesn't work, it could be the indexer, and/or NTFS symbolic links/junction points. All of which can easily be taken care of if you need the help. Unfortunately I have had to deal with this kind of nonsense several times over on our fileserver at work (should've never gotten rid of the Novell Fileserver!).
 

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Ztruker I have explorer view set to details and this does carry over to when an app opens Explorer.

lastof, thanks, I'll look intothat and let you know.
 

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  • OS
    Win 8 64bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    i5-2500K
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z77
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD HD5700
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HPLP2475w, AOC
    Hard Drives
    SATA 3 SSD, SATA 2 5 drives total 6Tb
Yes, I realize that. What I showed was to switch to Details view in the app Explorer window, in the case I showed it was a Save as dialog.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Thatmanbrian,
it could be that Windows is trying to optimize your file lists before you actually see them onscreen, which was a carryover bug from vista, try rt-clicking the folders (or parent) you are having problems with, go to customize, and then choose Optimize this folder for General Items - make sure you turn on the option to apply to subfolders. This may take awhile, but afterwards it should speed things up for you as it will re-write your registry BagsMRU settings that often become unruley with a lot of files/folders.

If that doesn't work, it could be the indexer, and/or NTFS symbolic links/junction points. All of which can easily be taken care of if you need the help. Unfortunately I have had to deal with this kind of nonsense several times over on our fileserver at work (should've never gotten rid of the Novell Fileserver!).

Thank you! I chose Optimize this folder for General Items and it resolved this problem for me. :thumb:
 

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