Storage spaces and repaired drive? (PCB Replaced)

friken

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Hello,

Windows 8:

I have 4 drives assigned to a raid1 and a raid0 storage space. A power plug broke off of one of the drives. I ordered an exact replacement hdd pcb for that drive. It spins up, bios sees it, I'm 100% sure no damage was done to the data as the drive was off when the power plug was broken. windows sees it but storage spaces thinks it is a new drive. So spaces is still showing the raid0 offline and raid1 in lowered resiliency mode. I am assuming something on the logic board, maybe hdd serial# or guid or something is now different for the repaired drive.

Does anyone know in powershell if there is a way to tell storage spaces that the repaired drive is in fact the one that it thinks is offline?

Here is a powershell Get-PhysicalDisk:

FriendlyName CanPool OperationalStatus HealthStatus Usage Size
------------ ------- ----------------- ------------ ----- ----
SAMSUNG HD204UI ... False Lost Communication Warning Auto-Select 1.82 TB
SAMSUNG HD204UI ... False OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk3 False OK Healthy Auto-Select 55.9 GB
PhysicalDisk1 True OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
HGST HDS5C4040AL... False OK Healthy Auto-Select 3.64 TB
HGST HDS5C4040AL... False OK Healthy Auto-Select 3.64 TB
PhysicalDisk5 False OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
-------------------------------------
-------------------------------------

note that this drive:
SAMSUNG HD204UI ... False Lost Communication Warning Auto-Select 1.82 TB
Now has a new logic board and storage space is showing as:
PhysicalDisk1 True OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
 

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It is a new drive. Because you replaced the Daughter Board on the drive.
 

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Hello, friken. Welcome to Windows EightForums.

I’m assuming the computer was off when the plug got broken. Nearest I can tell is that Storage Spaces doesn’t know it failed nor was replaced do to the new pcb. Couldn’t it just be added via the command line concerning “Hot spares” on the page below? Would not the OS then replace the cache for that drive?

How Storage Spaces Makes Use of Hot Spares
 

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    8.1 Pro X64
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    PC/Desktop
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    Acer T690
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    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
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    Acer/Intel E946GZ
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    2GB (max upgrade)
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    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
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Hello, friken. Welcome to Windows EightForums.

I’m assuming the computer was off when the plug got broken. Nearest I can tell is that Storage Spaces doesn’t know it failed nor was replaced do to the new pcb. Couldn’t it just be added via the command line concerning “Hot spares” on the page below? Would not the OS then replace the cache for that drive?

How Storage Spaces Makes Use of Hot Spares


Thanks for the reply. The drive was off when the plug was broken, so I'm 99.9% sure the data on the drive is undamaged. My guess is that storage spaces just sees it as a different drive because something like a serial# or guid from the new mainboard is now different. The os sees the drive as having a raw partition as expected, just that storage spaces sees it as a different drive than the one that is showing as offline.

I think if I make it a hotspare, storage spaces would rebuild the raid1 by wiping the disk and doing a rebuild. But I have two spaces associated with the drive set... a raid1 and a raid0. I was really hoping to recover both by just replacing the drive pcb. I may be oversimplifying it, but I was hoping for a command that tells storage spaces that drive #x is really the same as what is thinks is offline. Like telling it the serial# or whatever uniqueid has changed.
 

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You’re quite welcome. I’m not the savviest at computers and construction was my field. Now retired. This is a little out of my league, but know the basic principles. I like learning and have more time in searching for answers than knowledge.

I searched for a command that you are seeking to no avail. However, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’ll keep scouring.

I agree that the data has been untouched and good that you are cautious not to disturb it.

The problem I see is that the system doesn’t know that the disk went bad, just changed. And I see now that hot spare is more or less a backup of the drive. As a work around could you not take that drive out of the pool, back it up on some other drive, reinstall it, and have it rebuild it from the drive you backed it up on? Does that make any sense? Is that feasible? I know that's a long way around and probably time consuming.
 

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    8.1 Pro X64
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    System Manufacturer/Model
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    CPU
    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Acer/Intel E946GZ
    Memory
    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
    Case
    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
    Cooling
    Dual case fans + CPU fan
    Keyboard
    Acer Windows PS/2
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    Wireless Microsoft Arc
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    Antivirus
    Defender
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Look under “Disconnected disks” section with instructions on that page. Isn’t that what you need?

Before doing anything, I would advise to back that disk up somehow.
 

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  • OS
    8.1 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer T690
    CPU
    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Acer/Intel E946GZ
    Memory
    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
    Case
    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
    Cooling
    Dual case fans + CPU fan
    Keyboard
    Acer Windows PS/2
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft Arc
    Internet Speed
    54mbp/s
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
Friken, I would not think that you would need to rebuild it. I would try and use a Linux Live CD. Salvage all data, then rebuild it. Storage Spaces was really meant to be used for Server 2k12. Why MS placed it with Windows 8, makes you scratch your head.

Also what I meant by the new drive. Was that when you replace the motherboard. The Software sees a new Serial number from the onboard bios on the hard drive Motherboard. When that happens, things can go wrong.

If you are going to do a Raid type setup, I would go with a Hardware Raid, vs. using Storage Spaces. Also use Raid 5. I do not know how good this will do for helping you out. Download Understand and Troubleshoot Storage Spaces in Windows Server "8" Beta from Official Microsoft Download Center Also see Storage space cannot be repaired or disks are marked as retired incorrectly when you use Storage Spaces in Windows 8 or in Windows Server 2012
 

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    AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial M500 240GB SSD
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    Logitech M525
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