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Can i take A backup in safe mode?????

  1. #11


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    @ zobid - download the Macrium WinPE iso from my skydrive and burn that to CD.

    Then boot the PC with that CD and make your image. A USB stick must be at least 32GB (probably even more) to hold any sensible image.
    You only need a 8GB USB Drive, or SD Card in a USB reader for Clonezilla to run on. Once you boot up, you can run it in the RAM, which speeds up the process.

    Not to say that the alternatives are any different. The Majority of the PE's out there are Linux based.
    That's not the point. I was referring to the device where you store your image. The WinPE is only about 160MBs.
    Where you store your image, you have to have equal to the size of the drive that you are cloning. My last Windows Clone with Clonezilla was 25GB. My son's was 44GB. My Linux Clone image was only 9GB with even a VM with Windows 7 on the system.

    If you are making incremental backups. You need at least a minimum 1TB drive. Preferably a RAID 1 or RAID 5 setup, so that if you lose one drive in the RAID array, you do not lose all of your data.

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    Where you store your image, you have to have equal to the size of the drive that you are cloning
    That may be so with Clonzilla, but it is not true for other imaging programs. E.g. in Macrium the image is appr. 65% of the data you image - the size of the partition you image is irrelevant.

    But full system images are usually not small. That's why I warned against trying to use a USB flash drive to place the image - although these days there are flash drives of up to 120GB.
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    WHS, you do not place the image on the USB Stick. The USB stick is used as a boot device, so you can image the drive offline to a DVD, USB hard drive plugged into the computer, or a NAS on your LAN, using NFS for the backup.

    If you expect to use a USB Pen Drive to make a backup, it would never happen.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    WHS, you do not place the image on the USB Stick. The USB stick is used as a boot device, so you can image the drive offline to a DVD, USB hard drive plugged into the computer, or a NAS on your LAN, using NFS for the backup.

    If you expect to use a USB Pen Drive to make a backup, it would never happen.
    I put images all the time on my 120GB USB3 stick. What's wrong with that? For the rescue I boot from another USB stick.

    On my tablet, I even place Macrium images on the MicroSD card. But for the recovery you need a special WinPE. The normal WinPE that Macrium produces does not recocnize the SD card.

    The stick is a lot faster than an external HDD. Have a look:

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    Am I missing something? How is making a backup in safe mode going to replace the missing BCD/Boot/ file?
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    There is nothing wrong with that WHS. But USB sticks have been known to fail, along with getting corrupted. That is why I do not use them for saving backups. I get on average with Clonezilla, 1.78gbps downloads to the NAS, when doing backups. I have seen it go as fast as 2.5 gbps. You cannot get those kind of speeds with a USB stick or USB drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    Am I missing something? How is making a backup in safe mode going to replace the missing BCD/Boot/ file?
    You want to do it in an Offline mode. In other words, when the OS is not running. Windows locks processes even in the Safe mode. So it makes it hard to do certain things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with that WHS. But USB sticks have been known to fail, along with getting corrupted. That is why I do not use them for saving backups. I get on average with Clonezilla, 1.78gbps downloads to the NAS, when doing backups. I have seen it go as fast as 2.5 gbps. You cannot get those kind of speeds with a USB stick or USB drive.
    Nas is fine. At home I use SSHDs and SSDs for backup. But on the road with this tablet that is not very practical. I always have more images on disks that I make at home. You have to diversify. I have 10 different disks/media to backup my 6 systems. Never lost 1 bit - knock on wood.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    Am I missing something? How is making a backup in safe mode going to replace the missing BCD/Boot/ file?
    You want to do it in an Offline mode. In other words, when the OS is not running. Windows locks processes even in the Safe mode. So it makes it hard to do certain things.
    I still don't see how that's going to create a missing file.
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  10. #20


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    Not clear to me what the op's machine is doing. I don't know how he can get into safe mode if bcd is missing. It is more likely a bcd entry is missing or corrupt.

    Making a backup image isn't going to fix that. Best to run startup repair from some kind of boot media.

    Or, if he can get into safe mode, he can try fixing the entry using commands.
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