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What's coming after Windows 8.1? Any ideas?

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    Rio
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    What's coming after Windows 8.1? Any ideas?


    I'm starting to get the sense that Windows 8/8.1 is a sort of Windows Vista only with a lot less programming issues. It's certainly a faster, more stable OS than Vista but it reminds me of Vista because it's in between a sharp, very well done OS(Windows 7) and something that's coming up in the near future we have no idea what's going to be but it's certainly going to be better than Windows 8 given the number of complaints(most with reason) about it. So it seems to me it's gonna be something like Windows XP->Windows Vista->Windows 7 all over again, except this time the order will be Windows 7->Windows 8/8.1->Windows 9/X/Something better.

    Do you guys feel the same way about this? Does anyone have any idea what's coming next?

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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    For me it was more like 7 good, 8 bad, 8.1 good. I doubt many others here share that view though. Right now its all rumors and conjecture as far as Windows 9 goes. Even the stuff right from Microsoft is pretty vague. They are tight lipped as always.
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    This subject has been hashed over before. There are at least a half dozen threads on this forum that have been started pertaining to this subject that I can remember.

    I think there's a pattern because there has always been a competition between hardware and software. I feel Vista was released by OEMs on machines of the day that couldn't handle the resource demands. Install it on more modern machines and it'll run just fine. 7 ran fine because new hardware tech caught up. Also during 7 era MSE was released which demanded less resource.

    Now we come to 8/8.1 which was written lean and a lot of the bells and whistles were left out. This was performed so as to fit it on mobile devices to save on battery life.

    I must ask > Why don't you just come out and say that you don't like 8/8.1 and leave it at that? It's really all a matter of opinion. Yes? That's not to say it's not ok to like it. No one is forcing anyone to like it, but I really do feel it's a matter of opinion and nothing else.
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    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Suggest you logon to the Windows 9 Forum to continue this topic.

    Windows 9 Forums

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Central IL
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    I would not state that it is Vista. Even Vista had a few issues, that were carried over from XP SP3. As for 8, it is due to poor adoption, due to the mass majority are comfortable with 7, and businesses both private & Public service cannot migrate a lot of their software & apps to 8 is the biggest problem.

    As for the rest of how 8 was done, it was pushed through by Sales & Marketing too fast. They wanted the idea that you could have an easy to use interface (Metro), which was not meant for desktops & non-touch interface. Metro remind a lot of people of the POS (Point Of Sale) Interfaces you see in restaurants.

    Now the Desktop side you have a more efficient use of RAM, then you did in 7. 8.1 changed which you wanted to use. 8.1 Update 1 will look at hardware. If it does not see Touch Screen hardware, it kills the Metro Interface and brings back the conventional desktop. You still have access to Metro, along with can run them in a windows interface (ie Stardock Software's Metromix).

    Most people have a tablet, smartphone & may also have either a desktop or laptop. Windows 8 was just not people ready. Good idea, but did not cook long enough in R&D. Same goes with Server 2k12.
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    Personally I don't see Windows 8 as a failure at all. Since I prefer a traditional desktop environment I added Classic Shell, but all in all, 8 has always run very well on my PC and I have never regretted the $40 US I paid for 8 Pro when it first came out.
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    Gold Coast (Australia)
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    What complaints are there? Other than the "interface" complaints. To be honest I don't think Ive seen any
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    The Metro Interface gets most of the complaints. Logging in with a Live ID seems to be a bone of contention for some. Hidden and hard to find settings is one that pops up from time to time. A lot of what were issues for me in 8.0 have been fixed in 8.1 and update 1. I'm very happy with 8.1 as it is with no added third party start menu.
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    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there
    I absolutely HATED W8 when it first came out -- but I'm quite happy with W8.1 -- runs nearly everything I want - for OLD hardware I've still got an XP VM (Still cutting VINYL records - that software / hardware only runs on XP - but OK on a VM !!).

    Boot directly to desktop was a real winner (8.1) without needing any 3rd party stuff. The whole system is snappier than W8 too.

    The only thing I sort of "half missed" at first was the Start menu - but I use Custom toolbars which cascades the menus in any way I want -- looks rather like the "Classical" menu in XP.

    If W8.1 update would allow a keyboard stroke to popup a custom toolbar --that would be great - but I'm not really bothered.

    I don't have any interest in these so called "Metro" apps -- I usually run Windows with at least TWO monitors (one LARGE screen) and the only full screen app I bother with is if I'm watching a movie on the large screen.

    Usually I like to Window applications since I'm often getting or sending info from one to another one such as translating documents, comparing websites, copying spread sheet workbooks / power point presentations and preparing multi-media stuff.

    Metro apps are probably fine on a tablet but I use a computer for totally different purposes.

    The Live ID account is easily bypassed - simply logoff the Internet at that point at install time and then you can log in / create a local account.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Windows 8.0 x64


    It's my feeling that Vista was released totally untuned. I got 32 bit Vista pre SP1 and spent hours going through stuff like Black Viper recommendations and reading up on the new services etc..

    Other than the slow Explorer copy problem that i worked around by running one of the 3rd party copiers, most issues were caused by Services settings and lousy prefetch. After tuning the services(including disabling some) I printed out a table of the services and their current state/settings. I bought a machine with Vista x64 SP1. I made the same printout. All but a few of the services were set the same as my tweaks. The prefetch settings I changed to cache only boot files. The 64 bit machine did not have the slow copy in Explorer problem. That machine probably still has Vista on it as it runs fine.

    Windows Seven unlike Vista, has a program prefetcher that works. I left that set to the default 3 3 registry settings.

    Edit: It's cathartic to rant about this Vista pre SP1 since the services settings and getting rid of the crapware, like the unwanted av stuff, wasted weeks when I got that machine. So now I'll let it rest since I'm sure the regulars are tired of reading about it.
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