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Is 8 and 8.1 creating OS illiterate smartphone users?

  1. #61


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    Linux Mint 17.2


    Quote Originally Posted by Allison View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Well Microsoft has gone and done it. They are finally allowing Apple to let iOS users use a product that they cannot even give away.

    Update: Microsoft unveils Office for iPad

    Update: Microsoft unveils Office for iPad - Computerworld

    They're giving Microsoft Office away- I'll just go tell my nearest shop they should give me my free copy then 'sarcasm'! Did you read the article? You still have to pay for a full functional copy or subscription to Office 365.
    Yes I read the article. And yes I was being Sarcastic also.

    Microsoft is dying and they are trying to keep the Titanic afloat, by placing their thumb into the gouge that the Iceberg caused.

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  2. #62


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Since you know that Linux is so easy, tell me the following (because that is my current problem):


    How do you extend the casper-rw file beyond 4GB on a Mint Petra bootable flash drive without messing up the Grub.
    PS: I can Google the web myself. I need advice from an expert.
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  3. #63


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Since you know that Linux is so easy, tell me the following (because that is my current problem):


    How do you extend the casper-rw file beyond 4GB on a Mint Petra bootable flash drive without messing up the Grub.
    PS: I can Google the web myself. I need advice from an expert.
    Hi there
    the Btrfs file system allows zillions of bytes both for directory and individual file sizes (and can span disks too).

    Not sure if your distro allows Btrfs - but that might be a solution -- I posted elsewhere about creating a "portable" windows system using Linux as "Host" and running Windows as a VM. The Distro I'm using (Opensuse) - I chose the Btrfs file system.

    If you set GRUB to write to the MBR of your flash drive and write its boot code to a separate /boot partition on the external device you should be able to copy your file system to a temporary backup device, create a larger size partition, copy your data back and then you'll have to re-install GRUB again.

    I can't see any way of adjusting the partition size without re-installing GRUB. - I've tried imaging via ACRONIS (it handles Linux partitions too) and restoring to larger partitions but invariably I've had to re-install grub again to make the system bootable. No big deal really.

    Whether Linux or Windows --ALWAYS backup your system before messing around with it if it's got important data etc on it.

    ACRONIS works fine for Linux partitions too - the stand alone bootable version -- but for Linux if you have nothing else good old TAR still works !!! Tar everything from / (top level) downwards.

    For adjusting Partition sizes use GPARTED (also bootable from USB stick). Adjust the Linux partitions to suit - but you will need to re-install GRUB again in most cases.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #64


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Thanks Jimbo. I have no imaging problem. I use this program. Works very well. My problem is the Grub. I just can't find an easy method to fix it when it is corrupted. The corruption happens all the time when I want to resize the casper-rw pool file which is unfortunately only 4GB at the outset. But I have USB sticks up to 120GB that are all empty - just the bit of Mint and the 4GBs.

    I can recreate a Mint stick in minutes and a full system setup takes me less than 1 hour. But I have to find a way to increase the size of the pool file without messing up the Grub because I still don't know how to fix it. With a 4GB pool file I cannot put a lot of my files on it - e.g. my videos.
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  5. #65


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    the easiest way is probably

    1) run GPARTED to create partitions --use existing system or live cd
    2) use DD to copy partitions to new drive (use console / sudo) DD if=/dev/sda1 DD if=/dev/sda2 etc --will take a while.

    3) create new UUID for partitions on new drive

    sudo blkid finds existing UUID
    uuidgen to generate new uuid
    assign to partition -- either gparted or tune2fs

    Now grub can be updated correctly

    (most GRUB's on newish distros rely on the partition UUID these days).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #66


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Thanks Jimbo. Let me see what I can do with that. Mine is UUID also.
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  7. #67


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    HG, quick question: How do you make those screenshots on your W8P. With mine it says to push the Home and Power-on buttons at the same time. That always only gets me a screenshot of the home screen. What am I missing - maybe my 521 is a bit retarded ??

    The Power/Lock button + Windows key works on mine. It should work on yours, for it's WP8. The model shouldn't have anything to do with it. I don't think installation of any app should eliminate that feature.

    I find it difficult to hit both keys at the same time, although the wallet case I have sticks over the edge of the phone a bit and wide muscular construction-callused fingers don't help the cause.
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  8. #68


    Posts : 12
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    My feeling is that Win 8 and 8.1 revealed that many users are completely Windows illiterate despite the fact that they may have been using it for years. One small example, how many new Win 8 users don't know how to change the default program for opening a given file extension? They complain that they don't like the Metro app that opens to view photos but don't know how to change things to use the program they prefer.
    As a new windows 8.1 user (Bought a new touch laptop last week) I must admit that I understand that people were a little lost about opeining media files.

    First of all I can't believe that they didn't integrate a free Media Player App for the Metro Interface instead of that clunky video App. Instead you're stuck switching back to Desktop mode to open WMP. I installed the VLC App but once again the interface was clunky and I had to install a separate VLC player for the Desktop mode and when I try to ''Open With'' it now list both VLC players without any mention of which interface it's for.
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  9. #69


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Blazergamer View Post
    First of all I can't believe that they didn't integrate a free Media Player App for the Metro Interface instead of that clunky video App. Instead you're stuck switching back to Desktop mode to open WMP. I installed the VLC App but once again the interface was clunky and I had to install a separate VLC player for the Desktop mode and when I try to''Open With'' now list both VLC players without any mention of which interface it's for.
    You can use VLC to open media files. That is what it is for. What do you want VLC to do exactly - suggest another program that you don't have installed or what?
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  10. #70


    Welcome to Windows EightForums, Blazergamer.

    I see on your thread where you were asking guidance on a laptop you opted for an Acer Aspire V5 series Ultrabook. Nice choice!

    Instead of one media player for both types of media they have separated them into two separate Xbox apps; One for Music and one for video. I think it to be easier to organize that way. e.g. I don’t go to a movie theater to see a music concert. Of course, as you mentioned, there is the traditional WMP for the Desktop portal if one chooses to go that route, which would be more like an arena.

    I can understand your frustration by right clicking on a file and getting two VLCs listed, but is that MS’s fault that VLC named both programs the same? VLC desktop has been around awhile, so at least you would think they would have named the Store app version something like VLC2, or VLCM for Modern, VLCII, or whatever. Sounds to me like VLC didn’t think that through.

    Does “clunky’ mean different from what you’re used to? I find the Store apps absolutely pleasant to use. Being linked to their Charms bar they go way beyond the legacy Win32 programs.
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