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Is 8 and 8.1 creating OS illiterate smartphone users?

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    ........ inflicted with 8x,...........

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    My feeling is that Win 8 and 8.1 revealed that many users are completely Windows illiterate despite the fact that they may have been using it for years. One small example, how many new Win 8 users don't know how to change the default program for opening a given file extension? They complain that they don't like the Metro app that opens to view photos but don't know how to change things to use the program they prefer.

    My sister is one such user, she has been using Windows for many years (and DOS before that) yet still has trouble copying files from one folder to another on her computer.
    I know all kinds of people like this ,most family members ,some of them school teachers ,,some factory managers .and customers of mine ,lawyers,teachers, nurses ect ect , some have been using windows since the 386 days dos and win 3.1 .
    I made 60$ the other night setting up 2 wifi routers and making recovers thumbdrive for 2 customers ,1 retired nurse 1 retired teacher ,was it lack of knowledge or just lazy
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  3. #13


    Seems to me like a tricky question to bash 8/8.1. Most people come here and join to ask questions because their system is broke and they need it fixed then we hardly or never see them again. It's not really to learn the system. It so happens to be a forum about Windows 8/8.1. Itís the same on 7F or any other forum. 95% could care less how the thing works, nor are they interested in learning it deeply. They just want it fixed. Itís been no different for years.

    If youíre referring to the younger generation they know more about computers and/or devices with diverse OSs on them than preceding generations. Why? #1 is because a lot have been taught in schools how to use them. #2 Because PCs, laptops, and devices have become more affordable and abundant. #3 Because they want to be mobile. They donít want to be tied to a box or a landline wall phone we grew up with.

    Come to think of it 4 out of my 6 kids donít have a desk let alone a tower PC. They have laptops, pads, and phones. Theyíd rather sit at coffee, kitchen, or patio table to do their stuff. The other 2 have laptops and phones as well. 5 out of 6 of them use devices for more than consumption. Itís not very often that any of them come to me for help on fixing them. Why? Because they know thereís a wealth of info about them on the Internet or help files. None of them are enthusiastic about learning all about them deeply. They just want to configure them to their liking and move on. A lot of their friends are the same.

    So therefore to answer your question > No. It has nothing to do with Android, 8/8.1, Windows, tiles, icons, etc. It has to do with the degree of enthusiasm of learning about a particular subject. 95% could care less about how OSs or computers work.
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  4. #14


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    LOL.
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  5. #15


    Harrisonburg, Va.
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Doing math with a calculator is easy.

    But it is very good if you can do it with a pencil & paper.

    I can still do a square root with pencil & paper.

    What I'm saying is, it's good to know the basics about computers or anything.

    Just my opinion.
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  6. #16


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    Vista and Win7


    95% could care less how the thing works, nor are they interested in learning it deeply. They just want it fixed. Itís been no different for years.

    That is the problem. My wife does not even know how to fill gas into the car and even less how to change a tire. And she thinks she is a driver. When she is at the gas station by herself, she asks the guy at the next pump to fill her gas - and they do it, LOL. I would say: Lady you better walk. LOL
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  7. #17


    I'm glad you find it amusing. I find your viewpoint the same.

    Hereís a typical example in the screenshot below. A ďNew PostsĒ page I just brought up. A typical day on 8F. There are maybe 2 threads here of questions on learning to navigate the system or how to perform a particular task such as help with the Video & Music app and the Mail app. One from News thread. The others are about BSODs, peripherals, some kind broken system, etc.

    People are smarter than we think at learning a new system and/or itís UI. It makes no difference if theyíre ďjabbingĒ at tiles or at icons. It makes no difference if itís on a Start Menu or Start Screen. They all open an app just as in the past. The Store apps are no more difficult to learn than Apple or Google apps. The Window key basically works the same. In fact itís more useful than ever. The Desktop UI works the same other than itís considered an app. The Control Panel is just the same other than additions or a few changes as in past OSs.

    The only big difference is that it boots to the Start Screen (and for a very good reason), arrangement of tiles and columns within that, hot corners, Charms bar with added features, and the Switcher bar. How difficult is that to learn? Admittedly more than migrating from past OSs, but weíre not talking rocket science here either.

    Oh! Can't find the Power Button? Push the physical one to boot off and shut down just as in past OSs until you learn the new placement of it.

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  8. #18


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Seems people have some very strong feelings about this. I wanted a discussion and different opinions, sure got that. Careful what you wish for. Again, thanks to all for the replies.
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  9. #19


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    I know people who say with Pride, "I don't even know how to turn a computer on."

    From the mountain country of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.

    A lot of people here like that.

    Then again there are those who took the time to learn.
    Lots of them too.

    The trend is, more are taking the time to learn.

    Some are just intimidated by the technology.
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    95% could care less how the thing works, nor are they interested in learning it deeply. They just want it fixed. Itís been no different for years.




    That is the problem. My wife does not even know how to fill gas into the car and even less how to change a tire. And she thinks she is a driver. When she is at the gas station by herself, she asks the guy at the next pump to fill her gas - and they do it, LOL. I would say: Lady you better walk. LOL

    Sounds like you married a smart woman, whs.


    That's human nature. We learn a great deal about what we are passionate and interested in and the rest we learn just enough to get by.
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