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Is 8 and 8.1 creating OS illiterate smartphone users?

  1. #91


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Vista is a nice system. We still have 2 systems running with it and never have any problems - which cannot be said about 8.1.
    Hi there
    Two systems from Ms --absolutely FIRST rate are W2K (Windows 2000) server and W2K3 server. Not a single crash ever in either of these --still running W2K3 server today !!!!!

    Of course server software is usually more robust and to get it to work as a desktop OS means doing a bit of work.

    If you are interested

    How to convert your Windows Server 2003... to a Workstation!

    Here's a VM of W2K3 server as a desktop -- still works -- I have some old XP stuff I need but will run on the server -- also support stays until JULY 2015 !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. #92


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    rafael, the best choice for really low end PCs is a Linux distro. You do not even need a disk. You can run it from a flash drive. Any CPU and a bit of RAM (e.g. 512MB) will suffice. Some minimal Linux distros run even in 256MBs. And you can do everything that you would be doing with XP.
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  3. #93


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    rafael, the best choice for really low end PCs is a Linux distro. You do not even need a disk. You can run it from a flash drive. Any CPU and a bit of RAM (e.g. 512MB) will suffice. Some minimal Linux distros run even in 256MBs. And you can do everything that you would be doing with XP.
    It isn't necessarily easy though. I tried installing CentOS minimal and it was a pain - I had to set myself up as a root user before I could even download a screen to click on. My son however seems to think the RaspberryPi is simple to use..
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  4. #94


    Rio
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    Triple Boot Win7, Win8.1 and 10


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    rafael, the best choice for really low end PCs is a Linux distro. You do not even need a disk. You can run it from a flash drive. Any CPU and a bit of RAM (e.g. 512MB) will suffice. Some minimal Linux distros run even in 256MBs. And you can do everything that you would be doing with XP.
    I know Linux is a very good option for really low end PCs since I've personally tried Puppy Linux and another distro I can't remember on a 256Mb laptop and even on a flash drive it was very fast. But 2 things stopped me from installing it, one, it wouldn't install for some reason. Two, the lack of compatibility with Windows programs especially games. I know there is a sort of adapter software for Linux that allows a lot of Windows games to work on Linux but I still am very reluctant to use Linux also because of its interface.
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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by rafael1979 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    rafael, the best choice for really low end PCs is a Linux distro. You do not even need a disk. You can run it from a flash drive. Any CPU and a bit of RAM (e.g. 512MB) will suffice. Some minimal Linux distros run even in 256MBs. And you can do everything that you would be doing with XP.
    I know Linux is a very good option for really low end PCs since I've personally tried Puppy Linux and another distro I can't remember on a 256Mb laptop and even on a flash drive it was very fast. But 2 things stopped me from installing it, one, it wouldn't install for some reason. Two, the lack of compatibility with Windows programs especially games. I know there is a sort of adapter software for Linux that allows a lot of Windows games to work on Linux but I still am very reluctant to use Linux also because of its interface.
    my opinion ,you have to basically forget about windows when you switch to linux
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  6. #96


    Texas
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    Appears to me with many recent posts that new 8/8.1 users are kind of Windows illiterate. Is it because of the smartphone/tile/android generation?
    Hey, Popeye! I'm smartphone illiterate! And I believe that's why I had so much trouble adjusting to Windows 8/8.1. All that clutter is just not conducive to a production environment! So I got rid of most of it. I now have it customized to kinda look like what Windows 7 did without adding any of the third party Start buttons.

    Windows 8.1 gave me a little tiny window that will bring up the Charms bar (wish I could get rid of the danged thing popping up every time I get too far to the right with my mouse or when trying to shut something down!) I have the Quick Launch toolbar set up, as well as a Programs toolbar, and that's all I need. I do not pin anything to my taskbar; I just don't need it.

    I'm still smartphone illiterate, but those things just don't want me to know how to do anything but get on the Internet and spend money. Ha! I fooled them . . . I disabled WiFi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael1979 View Post
    I know there is a sort of adapter software for Linux that allows a lot of Windows games to work on Linux
    You are thinking of Wine. (WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X). It doesn't work with all Windows programs by any means.
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  8. #98


    Texas
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    My feeling is that Win 8 and 8.1 revealed that many users are completely Windows illiterate despite the fact that they may have been using it for years. One small example, how many new Win 8 users don't know how to change the default program for opening a given file extension? They complain that they don't like the Metro app that opens to view photos but don't know how to change things to use the program they prefer.

    My sister is one such user, she has been using Windows for many years (and DOS before that) yet still has trouble copying files from one folder to another on her computer.
    Actually, Strollin, what has happened is that Microsoft changed everything around so that most of us can no longer find what we need. When I first installed Windows 8, I could not figure out how to shut the danged thing down! Sure, the Getting Started tile was there, but not showing in the first window on the computer. Further, the scroll bar at the bottom of Windows 8 was so dim that it wasn't noticeable! Consequently, I never found the Getting Started tile!

    I know a lot about Windows; however, I'm more of a hardware person (build and repair), so I know how to look for things, most of which aren't intuitively findable!

    BTW, it took me a long time to adjust from a directory to a folder! To me, that was the worst idea in the world. Say directory to someone younger than 50 and they look at you like you've lost all your marbles. And now, we have to look for Metro Tiles! Sheesh! Probably in 30 more years, if someone says folder, they'll be looked at like they've lost all their marbles. Sigh . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    it took me a long time to adjust from a directory to a folder!
    Err, they are exactly the same thing actually ...

    EDIT: Apparently not (Oops, sorry) meaning - Difference between ?"folder" and "directory" - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
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  10. #100


    Rio
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    Triple Boot Win7, Win8.1 and 10


    Windows 8, even a couple of years on is still an unfinished product. It seems to me like Microsoft took one leap in one direction and then suddenly regretted it and took another big leap backwards. Now they seem to be trying to figure out what to do with Windows 8, what direction to follow, since most Windows users are still too hung up on desktop based Windows like Vista and 7 more recently. I think they did the right thing with 8.1 taking a small step back towards desktop based Windows.
    Let's see what's coming up with Windows 9 since by then touch screen monitors/laptops will be considerably cheaper, maybe MS were counting on that cheapness to come sooner following the arrival of their latest Windows installment. Who knows?
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