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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    That is normal for the Metro Interface. Now if you are in the true Desktop mode, which you can tell 8.1 to choose the Desktop over Metro, you will start with the older conventional interface. 8.1 Update 1 removes Metro all together from laptops, desktops, gives you the option for either with touchscreen convertible laptops, that can be used either as a laptop or tablet.
    This is the first I've heard of this. Where did you get this information from?
    See Page two. Windows 8.1 Update 1: 10 Key Changes - InformationWeek

    As I stated, if it is not a Tablet device or no Touchscreen detected, 8.1 Update 1 will automatically boot to the Metro Interface Desktop app/portal. It also brings to the users the ability to run Metro apps from within the desktop, as you can with Stardock Software's Metromix app.
    I went ahead and took the privilege to correct what I think you meant to type. Boot to the Desktop app/portal, yes? A typo, yes?

    The article is quite amusing, really. This Jeff Bertolucci seems to be more of an Apple guy. He names a few so called “pundits” namely Paul Thurrott, Woody Leonard, and Michael Endler to give some credibility to his story. That’s the setup to keep the reader interested. Power in numbers. The first two and the author I couldn’t find any educational credentials for, but Endler, which I found on Linkedin has a B.A. in English Language and Literature (General) and a M.A. in Cinema Studies, which to me doesn’t do much in understanding systems. It just means he knows how to write to keep a reader interested and to lead them through nifty pages of paragraphs describing pics and advertisements that come along with.

    I’ll give the rest credit that they have at least a B.A. in something, but I’ll guarantee it isn’t in business or economics. This is not to say I have a degree, but I was in business for quite a few years. I’ll get to more on that in a bit.

    Your page two.

    In Windows 8.1, you can bypass the Start screen (and Modern UI altogether) by delving into the taskbar settings and configuring this option.
    Wrong information. If he knew the system, he would know this is not true whatsoever. It does not “bypass Modern UI altogether”. The design language Modern/Metro touch-centric UI is the dominant system UI and is does not get “turned off” by any means. One can configure or the system can configure itself to boot to the Desktop app/portal if it doesn’t sense a touch peripheral, but it does not bypass or turn off the Modern/Metro UI. The Desktop app/portal continues to have its own traditional UI that we’re all familiar with plus one needs to use All Apps instead of any Start Menu. The only other item that has the tradition UI is the Control Panel. If you’ve taken notice, more and more of that is being moved over to the new side.

    BTW, the touch-centric Desktop UI that was introduced in 7 is carried over to 8/8.1, so when one is in the full touch mode, one can use the Desktop app/portal.

    Last, but not least, ironically the author gives the reason why MS headed in this mobile/touch direction > “declining PC shipments” < Meaning desktop tower PCs. Anyone that has any business sense knows that when the market changes one must change their products to meet it. As soon as some of you geeks understand that concept the better off I think you’ll be.

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  2. #22


    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    That was the only one I could find, that was not a sales ad for Microsoft. I could have searched further probably. But Microsoft is keeping things hush on the next "How much more can we screw up our company, then it already is.".

    The whole declining PC shipments is more FUD by writers and the marketing shams for Microsoft. Federal & State governments, along with hospitals will always have a need for desktop style workstations.

    When you are in situations where you need 3-4 or more monitors for the workstation. You will never get that with a laptop or tablet.

    I really do not see desktops going away anytime soon. The prices may come down a little more. But they will end up never dying.

    I got tired of how screwed up Microsoft made 8.1 in the last set of updates in February, I finally decided to move over to full time use of Xubuntu on my Laptop. I was going back and forth playing with 8.1 & Xubuntu (cloned the drive image of both with Clonezilla, so I could restore back to what it was, before the install).

    We are finally getting my father into replacing XP on his desktop with Xubuntu. I am going to have to go over and do some tweaking for him. But he is old school Unix. He has always been one to not like how Microsoft changed things, and always is the last to buy any latest hardware or software.
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  3. #23


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    That was the only one I could find, that was not a sales ad for Microsoft. I could have searched further probably. But Microsoft is keeping things hush on the next "How much more can we screw up our company, then it already is.".

    The whole declining PC shipments is more FUD by writers and the marketing shams for Microsoft. Federal & State governments, along with hospitals will always have a need for desktop style workstations.

    When you are in situations where you need 3-4 or more monitors for the workstation. You will never get that with a laptop or tablet.

    I really do not see desktops going away anytime soon. The prices may come down a little more. But they will end up never dying.

    I got tired of how screwed up Microsoft made 8.1 in the last set of updates in February, I finally decided to move over to full time use of Xubuntu on my Laptop. I was going back and forth playing with 8.1 & Xubuntu (cloned the drive image of both with Clonezilla, so I could restore back to what it was, before the install).

    We are finally getting my father into replacing XP on his desktop with Xubuntu. I am going to have to go over and do some tweaking for him. But he is old school Unix. He has always been one to not like how Microsoft changed things, and always is the last to buy any latest hardware or software.
    Let me pick one of your points apart. . .just a little. If you want to run three or four monitors you do not need a desktop system. There is a device out there that allows anyone with a half way good laptop to run three or more monitors. It is called a plugable device. they come in USB 2 and 3. The USB 3 offers more stability and in most cases allows the user to use up to three monitors, hence no need for a desktop system. I know this because I have both the 2 and 3 versions, and must say they do the job quite nicely. Will they work with a tablet; don't know haven't a tablet with a USB setup. And a oh by the way, they are less expensive then a mid range video card, and probably work better that most video cards that come with a new desktop system.
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