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Problem Restoring System Partition Image

  1. #11


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    The screenshot below is of a cloned HDD, in a USB HDD dock.

    Click image for larger version

    Post a screenshot of your clone.



    I wonder if the word "image" has different meanings. I have a full, uncompressed, clone of the original system partition that I want to restore to the machine. So, it does not matter how it was created.

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  2. #12


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    I would mount the AOMEI image and reimage the mounted partition with free Macrium. Then restore it with the Macrium WinPE (which you can also use to image the mounted partition). It is a similar case like this:

    System Image - Recover a Broken Windows 7 System Image - Windows 7 Help Forums

    And the ,iso for the Macrium WinPE you can download from my Skydrive.
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  3. #13


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    Maybe if you went through the exact process you used to create your backup, we could better understand your situation.

    For instance, you used the Aoemi Backupper utility and the System Backup option?
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  4. #14


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    I think this is the situation:

    He doesn't have an image file. He cloned the system partition.

    The OP is surprised windows system image doesn't recognise it, and that Aomei will not clone it back again from within windows.
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  5. #15


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    Can't he mount that clone and image the mounted partition ??
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  6. #16


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    W8.1

    "Image" and "Clone"


    Thanks for everyone's attention on this. I do appreciate everyone's involvement.



    Disk image

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Disk images, in computing, are computer files containing the contents and structure of a disk volume or an entire data storage device, such as a hard drive, tape drive, floppy disk, optical disc or USB flash drive. A disk image is usually created by creating a sector-by-sector copy of the source medium, thereby perfectly replicating the structure and contents of a storage device.


    I think, as I suggested before, the word "image" is being used in this thread with two different meanings. I've always thought "image" and "clone" are synonymous. Certainly the above suggests that's the case.

    I've also said partway through the thread that I had a clone of the system partition.

    It seems though that others here have a different understanding of "image."

    Regardless of whether there is actually a correct and single meaning of the word, I think it will be useful to keep in mind that some may use "image" and "clone" interchangeably.

    Hopefully, that will help reduce confusion in the future.
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  7. #17


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    Solution


    With no input in the UEFI question, I decided just to go ahead and try out what I thought might work.

    I did find that my original guess on what to do did work successfully. Although initially, it looked like it would not (more in a moment).

    For clarity sake and to perhaps help someone else in the future, here's the complete process.

    1. Obtain a bootable partition cloning tool which will allow you to overwrite another partition with existing data in it.
    2. Do a clean install of W8 in UEFI mode. This will create 4 UEFI partitions.
    3. Attach the drive with your backup system-partition clone. Clone that backup system-partition over the new W8 system-partition. This will completely overwrite all content in the system-partition created in step 2.
    4. Restart.
    5. Watch windows enter a "repair" function (this is where things looked bad). Although I didn't time it, it seemed that the process took about 10 minutes. I don't recall if windows auto restarted the PC or if I had to restart it. If necessary, restart the PC.
    6. Upon restart the system booted with all of my previous setup and content in place. At this point it seems to be working completely correctly.



    This appears to have worked for me but I would feel more comfortable recommending the approach if I better understood why Windows entered a repair mode and if I knew what was done in that repair mode.

    Since this whole fiasco started, I've learned that Windows 8 has a built in tool for creating a recovery set and I'm going to investigate that further as I'm not that confident that the process above is actually a sound approach. It is simply what I had to work with given the situation.

    My recommendation is to only do this if you have no other choice.

    By the way, my use of "system-partition" above refers to the partition where the windows files are installed. This guide: https://www.eightforums.com/installat...tml#post335416 calls the same partition the "primary" partition.
    Last edited by jonnyz2; 08 Mar 2014 at 13:57. Reason: clarify "system-partition"
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  8. #18


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    Looks like what you did is to format the disk with the dummy installation. I wonder whether there is not an easier way to do that.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyz2 View Post
    I think, as I suggested before, the word "image" is being used in this thread with two different meanings. I've always thought "image" and "clone" are synonymous. Certainly the above suggests that's the case.

    I've also said partway through the thread that I had a clone of the system partition.

    It seems though that others here have a different understanding of "image."

    Regardless of whether there is actually a correct and single meaning of the word, I think it will be useful to keep in mind that some may use "image" and "clone" interchangeably.

    Hopefully, that will help reduce confusion in the future.
    I think of them as different entities, since they need to be handled differently. For instance, what file extension is attached to a "Cloned" backup?

    I have wondered about the exact makeup of a Cloned install, since I have seen problems in the past with Drive letter confusion after cloning... I suppose that migh depend on how the clone is done. I have re-imaged my system many times, but have never done a clone.

    Anyway, a System image (file) will copy all the necessary partitions for your install to operate normally. I don't know if the Repair Windows did on your system took care of the Recovery Options, but you might check.
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  10. #20


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    Looks like what you did is to format the disk with the dummy installation. I wonder whether there is not an easier way to do that.
    I think that is mostly correct. Certainly I used windows install to again setup the partitions on the drive. I also think it did more though. I also believe the install places files in one of the partitions to control the boot process, load drivers, etc.

    I have wondered about the exact makeup of a Cloned install, since I have seen problems in the past with Drive letter confusion after cloning... I suppose that migh depend on how the clone is done. I have re-imaged my system many times, but have never done a clone.
    What I used was a clone created by a partition to partition cloning process. That results in an exact copy of the original partition. In my case, it was written to a partition on an external drive.

    There is no file extension.

    Upon completing Step 3 there are no changes to partition position on the drive or the "drive" letter assigned to the partition.
    Last edited by jonnyz2; 08 Mar 2014 at 14:11.
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