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  1. #721


    [QUOTE=GMan;79313]
    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post

    I have a fair amount of room left on Start, but definitely not enough for all of my games and apps. I have a ton of apps that I might use once a year or something, some I might use once a month or so and then all of my normal programs (Quick Launch, Rocketdock) and games (folder on desktop)..
    There is tons of space, just use your mouse wheel to scroll left and right. All the less used stuff can go on All Apps which is hidden in normal use so won't matter if it gets cluttered.

    About three pages back, someone quoted me and replied but the thread has moved on, so too late to respond!! Frustrating as too many interperson discussions are going on here. Surely the mods can halt this thread and let us start new ones for specific points about the Start screen maybe? Please? Be much easier for us all wouldn't it?

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  2. #722


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crawfish View Post

    First, I'm not trying to get anyone to use a particular number of rows. I'm trying to encourage making good use of the taskbar, which as I've said earlier, can be done with only one row.
    You call it good usage ? , you put over 50 applications on your taskbar, this is not a menu bar, aside who will use 50 differents applications in a day ? Are you actualy soing something productive with your PC or you just open and close apps ? This is your personnal choice it's not something everyone will like and it's not a replacement for the start menu for me.
    You're absolutely right I call it "good usage". Perhaps you don't get it because you don't use your computer for as many things as I do. In any event, I accounted for people like you when I said "I'm trying to encourage making good use of the taskbar, which as I've said earlier, can be done with only one row." If you use fewer programs, pin the ones you use to the taskbar. That's the idea, and it seems pretty simple to me. But it's looking more and more like a man who wants to use the Start Menu for everything, which was obvious fail the first I saw it back in 1995-96 in an NT4 beta for reasons already given multiple times, that became fail^2 once the Windows 7 taskbar was introduced, is like a man who wants to rent a pig - he's hard to stop.
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  3. #723


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    [QUOTE=thatmanbrian;79325]
    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post

    I have a fair amount of room left on Start, but definitely not enough for all of my games and apps. I have a ton of apps that I might use once a year or something, some I might use once a month or so and then all of my normal programs (Quick Launch, Rocketdock) and games (folder on desktop)..
    There is tons of space, just use your mouse wheel to scroll left and right. All the less used stuff can go on All Apps which is hidden in normal use so won't matter if it gets cluttered.

    About three pages back, someone quoted me and replied but the thread has moved on, so too late to respond!! Frustrating as too many interperson discussions are going on here. Surely the mods can halt this thread and let us start new ones for specific points about the Start screen maybe? Please? Be much easier for us all wouldn't it?
    I should have been more descriptive with the hows and whys. I'm one of those guys like SIW2 that uses it as little as possible. I generally don't use it too much, but for the things I do, I get to them extremely quickly. It's how I'm wired...I must do (most) things quick like that. I dunno....birth defect maybe lol....no offense to anyone for any reasons!!! Sometimes, I go to open a program and before I get to it, I forget what I wanted because I was already 12 steps ahead in my mind on what I had or needed to do. (Being on a P4 doesn't help with that, but no complaints on the machine. It does awesome for me. Check the specs.)

    So I could never scroll to find an app on Start. I have the things I traditionally would put there on 7 and prior only. So I really haven't changed my so-called workflow in any way for 8, besides the Start is full screen and before not.

    Plus I will admit it is a getting-used-to-type-of-thing too. I feel strongly but not so much that I'm set in stone. I could change things up one day...who knows heh.

    Here is my Start menu to make my description into graphics. I change the color and background Windows graphic every day basically:
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  4. #724


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi everyone.

    This thread seems to have got into too many "sub threads" -- for instance I have a specific problem of how when using METRO ui can I display more than one application on the screen at the same time WITHOUT using the desktop --for example go into IE via the Metro app and try and display TWO or more websites on the same screen.

    Nobody has bothered to explain how I should do this -- all the threads now are related to "Do you Like or Dislike metro UI".

    I suggest as the previous poster has said -- let's halt this thread and post under our specific queries.

    Cheers

    jimbo
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  5. #725


    This thread seems to have got into too many "sub threads" -- for instance I have a specific problem of how when using METRO ui can I display more than one application on the screen at the same time WITHOUT using the desktop --for example go into IE via the Metro app and try and display TWO or more websites on the same screen.
    To answer your question, the desktop is one keypress away, so where is your problem? When I log into Win 8 I am greeted by the Start Screen. I press the desktop icon and from then on I am in a Win 7 type environment and never have to go to the Start screen again.* I don't use ANY of the Metro apps as I already have all my Win 7 applications on desktop shortcuts or my task bar. Metro Apps are for tablet/phone users. Ignore them. Ignore the Metro UI too. Give me one reason why you in particular would need to return to the Metro UI in your workflow.



    * actually I also have all my apps shortcuts on my start screen as that is pretty cool too, but for the point of my argument, you don't have to do that...
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  6. #726


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    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi everyone.

    This thread seems to have got into too many "sub threads" -- for instance I have a specific problem of how when using METRO ui can I display more than one application on the screen at the same time WITHOUT using the desktop --for example go into IE via the Metro app and try and display TWO or more websites on the same screen.

    Nobody has bothered to explain how I should do this -- all the threads now are related to "Do you Like or Dislike metro UI".

    I suggest as the previous poster has said -- let's halt this thread and post under our specific queries.

    Cheersjimbo
    Metro applications are inherently single instance and are supposed to be run full screen or with a little effort you can run two side-by-side in a 33/67 configuration. Metro applications are also suspended when not focused. Welcome to the desktop OS of 2012
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  7. #727


    I'd also mention this thread where it is revealed how Microsoft say you can open IE10 as either a Metro or as a desktop app.
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  8. #728


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    been using it for 2 days..and haven't been able to get a hold of the new start menu...it keeps disappearing the moment i try to click.. playing mind games with me
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    NJ
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    4 Windows 7 Pro Sp1- 4 Win 8 Pro, 1- xp pro sp3


    I had mentioned in prior posts the solution for both worlds in windows 8 is in the app on the metro desktop that looks like windows 7. Just when clicking on this app the start menu is there and all the functions of windows 7 is there. This way if you want windows 7 you have it with the ability to use it just like windows 7 now. If you only want to use the metro design you just close this app.
    this would then solve all the problems
    robin
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  10. #730


    Quote Originally Posted by koolkat77 View Post
    been using it for 2 days..and haven't been able to get a hold of the new start menu...it keeps disappearing the moment i try to click.. playing mind games with me
    Get ready, Koolcat. The Metro interface IS the Start Menu. Many of us have downloaded free Start Menu replacements that work fine.
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