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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #671


    Yorkshire
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    Windows 8 Ultimate (x64) (build 8250)


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Hi Col,

    If you take a look at the video Lex Luthor posted - the first 30 seconds will convince you he is not a Metro fanboi.

    It is quite funny.


    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
    A hundred years ago all you people that can't adjust to modernisation would have been called Luddite's
    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
    Power users to me are just know-it-all bigots in reality!
    Ah, yes. The stupid, backward, insensitive jerks argument. Funny how it's never the other way around? No one who dislikes Metro says the equivalent about you people for liking it. Their arguments are - nope, not for me. You go use Metro all day long and love it. But for some reason that's not good enough. You've got to rip the critics to shreds.

    Let me let you in on a little secret: Metro haters don't hate you. They hate Metro. You act like you're the one being attacked, and I get the impression you really believe you are even if you don't realize it.
    Thanks SIW2......In fact I hate it with a passion and I've tried to find its interface UI controls to be able to add something more advanced than a splat of colour and an ugly fish on it....Its grotesque............

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  2. #672


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    Posts : 8
    Windows 8 Ultimate (x64) (build 8250)


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thatmanbrian View Post

    Actually I was referring to clicking on a ordinary desktop shortcut. Your method may well be my answer. Thanks. With explorer left-clicking the taskbar icon a second time does nothing.
    You know, that further illustrates my point that people conflate the forever clunky, modal desktop with the incredibly useful, usable Windows 7 taskbar, and that they don't understand how to use the Windows 7 taskbar, because if they did, they wouldn't be relying on the desktop (and Start Menu) to organize and launch programs. Neither of those things have ever been any good for that. The Start Menu is a pain to navigate and goes away when you select something from it, discarding all your navigation. The desktop is hidden most of the time, such that to get to what's on it, you typically have to temporarily minimize all your windows. The "Metro" thing combines the worst aspects of both. It is highly concentrated fail.

    And his method is your answer. And left-clicking the running Explorer icon doesn't do "nothing"; it brings its window to the front, just like the taskbar always has. That was its original purpose, in fact, to make it easy to find open windows.
    Hi there
    the problem isn't actually running TWO instances of IE (or any other application) but having them BOTH OPEN AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME SCREEN -- for example comparing the contents of two web sites / two photos / two excel spreadsheets etc etc.

    I'm sure there is some deliberate obfuscation on this point but all you metro lovers here's an EASY one for you --PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO COMPARE TWO PHOTOS on the SAME SCREEN USING THE PHOTO APP.

    Similarly I might want two instances of Windows explorer on the same screen to compare directories -- this is only possible currently using the DESKTOP.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    You're not using their two cents apps are you.You can view 25 pics at once in Photoshop on Windows 8.........
    Their apps I think are written or programed by school children! You need to insatll real software to get the functionality of a real desktop! Even the reader thing is shit, I use Sumatra pdf reader because Adobe reader is about 50 meg now........
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  3. #673


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It seems from looking around the various forums that it is about 50:50.

    Some can't get enough of it - others try to avoid it.

    That is ok - each to their own.

    The question is - will MS take a fall?

    MS seem to think it is the best thing for MS - we shall see.
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  4. #674


    What's wrong with Metro apart from it being new? it does a better job than the start menu, it's 100x easier to find what you want and IMO it looks cool. Even though I like it, I can still understand that some people will prefer the old start menu because it's what they are use to, but I really can't understand why people hate it.

    I think we might see history repeat its self, people hated Vista so MS tweaked it and called it Windows 7 and people loved it. So maybe when Windows 8 is called Windows 9, people will love it too!
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  5. #675


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You would need to read through all the relevant threads to get the answers to that.

    I don't think anyone is going to repeat it all again.

    If metro suits you and the things you do - that is great.
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  6. #676


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post
    What's wrong with Metro apart from it being new? it does a better job than the start menu, it's 100x easier to find what you want and IMO it looks cool. Even though I like it, I can still understand that some people will prefer the old start menu because it's what they are use to, but I really can't understand why people hate it.

    I think we might see history repeat its self, people hated Vista so MS tweaked it and called it Windows 7 and people loved it. So maybe when Windows 8 is called Windows 9, people will love it too!
    Hi there
    I don't think you either READ or UNDERSTOOD my posts on Metro

    The REAL problem with Metro (not W8) is that particularly with Work users they often need to have several WINDOWS open on the SAME SCREEN at the same time such as two Excel spreadsheets , more than one email message, possibly two or 3 instances of Windows explorer and definitely MORE than one web site open.

    You CAN do this with the desktop --but that's not the point -- in any case you have to get to the desktop via metro --and then you can of course launch multiple instances of the application -- the point is that as a BUSINESS user Metro in only allowing ONE application per screen such as IE in "Invasive Mode" is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME -- a workstation is NOT a mobile phone.

    Until Ms address this particular problem there is 100% NO POINT in business users doing the upgrade to W8.

    I LIKE W8 but I don't need EXTRA keystrokes to get applications up and running.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #677


    so you are saying it can't be summed up in a few words?
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  8. #678


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post
    so you are saying it can't be summed up in a few words?

    ?? and I thought I could understand English. Not sure what your reply means.

    I'll say again -- imagine you ONLY had the Metro interface -- how can you then display more than ONE application on the same SCREEN -- for example two pictures using the PHOTOAPP metro tile. (Of course Photoshop etc will do it but I'm saying imagine you ONLY had Metro) Also how could you show for example TWO web pages when using IE in "Invasive mode".

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #679


    Posts : 454
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post
    What's wrong with Metro apart from it being new? it does a better job than the start menu, it's 100x easier to find what you want and IMO it looks cool. Even though I like it, I can still understand that some people will prefer the old start menu because it's what they are use to, but I really can't understand why people hate it.

    I think we might see history repeat its self, people hated Vista so MS tweaked it and called it Windows 7 and people loved it. So maybe when Windows 8 is called Windows 9, people will love it too!
    Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Read my messages to understand why the Start Menu has always been horrible and for numerous reasons why the "Metro" thing is horrible. Then again, why bother? You seem to be one of those people like "Kat" I think it was who thinks "nothing is better or worse than anything else", so you won't understand any of it. I'm just highly amused so many people like you post in what I assumed was a forum for enthusiasts, when instead it's proved to be a forum filled with people who never figured out how to use Windows 7 effectively, in particular, the taskbar, because if you understood the taskbar, you wouldn't be bringing up the Start Menu. As I've said probably a dozen times by now, it's puzzling.
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  10. #680


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by revocomputers View Post
    What's wrong with Metro apart from it being new? it does a better job than the start menu, it's 100x easier to find what you want and IMO it looks cool. Even though I like it, I can still understand that some people will prefer the old start menu because it's what they are use to, but I really can't understand why people hate it.

    I think we might see history repeat its self, people hated Vista so MS tweaked it and called it Windows 7 and people loved it. So maybe when Windows 8 is called Windows 9, people will love it too!
    Hi there
    I don't think you either READ or UNDERSTOOD my posts on Metro

    The REAL problem with Metro (not W8) is that particularly with Work users they often need to have several WINDOWS open on the SAME SCREEN at the same time such as two Excel spreadsheets , more than one email message, possibly two or 3 instances of Windows explorer and definitely MORE than one web site open.

    You CAN do this with the desktop --but that's not the point -- in any case you have to get to the desktop via metro --and then you can of course launch multiple instances of the application -- the point is that as a BUSINESS user Metro in only allowing ONE application per screen such as IE in "Invasive Mode" is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME -- a workstation is NOT a mobile phone.

    Until Ms address this particular problem there is 100% NO POINT in business users doing the upgrade to W8.

    I LIKE W8 but I don't need EXTRA keystrokes to get applications up and running.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Use the Metro start screen just as a start screen then, and just use the desktop. I'm using W8 for my business I can have open multiple documents. I mess around with the Metro apps and some of them are fun, but for business I use the desktop.


    I quite agree there is no point in business upgrading to Windows 8, but I would say that even if they keep the old start button there would be no point in upgrading.

    Exactly what extra key strokes do you need to get your applications running?
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