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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #601


    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    sigh

    Folks, if you don't like the Metro Interface, press the Windows key and you'll get the classic desktop. Or press the Windows key+D. Or press Ctrl+Esc.
    Indeed, it's as easy as that. The point, however, is why contend with something that, for a great many people, is a completely useless, unwanted extra step in the boot process.
    Because Metro IS a good idea if you are using a touch screen. And touch screens are the wave of the future.

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  2. #602


    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    Because Metro IS a good idea if you are using a touch screen. And touch screens are the wave of the future.
    I guess you will be using a touch screen to work on that 20 column by 150 row excel spreadsheet :-)
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  3. #603


    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    Because Metro IS a good idea if you are using a touch screen. And touch screens are the wave of the future.
    I guess you will be using a touch screen to work on that 20 column by 150 row excel spreadsheet :-)
    Valid point. The future might be a little bumpy.
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  4. #604


    I can see a time quite soon when our desktop monitors are touch screens and we'll be interacting through a combination of touch, mouse and keyboard! Each method has its benefits and none are mutually exclusive. MS are simply expanding our options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    Because Metro IS a good idea if you are using a touch screen. And touch screens are the wave of the future.
    Imagine a 20 inch "touchscreen" monitor and you have to work on a huge spreadsheet, I guess moving around with fingers on that would be exhausting to your arm if you do that for hours than doing it with a mouse. You say touchscreen may be the wave for the future, but to me that is only "partially" correct because not all devices would be reliable on a touchscreen and I think it unfair that touchscreen lovers insist that and say to those who don't that they are wrong.

    I don't see this Start Screen that always blocks my desktop when launched is generally better than the old Start menu that has a compact design that does not block the whole Desktop. That is what defenders of the Metro seems to not understand on the side of those who criticize it and letting it show is not obvious for novices at all who are used of the familiar Start button that they removed and replaced with this hidden spot on the left with lesser functionality. That's one of the stupidest UI decisions they have ever made.
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  6. #606


    Fellows, I think I'll have to back off 50%. Touchscreens replacing regular screens are the wave of the future, along with a mouse and keyboard.
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  7. #607


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    I don't see this Start Screen that always blocks my desktop when launched is generally better than the old Start menu that has a compact design that does not block the whole Desktop. That is what defenders of the Metro seems to not understand on the side of those who criticize it and letting it show is not obvious for novices at all who are used of the familiar Start button that they removed and replaced with this hidden spot on the left with lesser functionality. That's one of the stupidest UI decisions they have ever made.
    This though has little if anything to do with whether users are in favour of Metro or not. MS has decided IMO that their future income is dependant upon a percentage of the paid downloaded apps and monthly cloud subscriptions. Personally I prefer to 'own' my software and keep my files on my PC. I am not interested in downloading apps either. Just look though at how much they are spending promoting cloud computing in the computer press so downloading apps is a follow on from that.

    I doubt whether MS are going to offer the classic desktop option when Win8 is released which will be a sad state of affairs as from all accounts the underlying Win8 OS is superior to Win7.
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  8. #608


    [QUOTE=Vertex;78111]
    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    this Start Screen that always blocks my desktop
    Erm, it isn't blocking your desktop, it IS your desktop surely? I mean you would put the icons from your original desktop on this start menu wouldn't you so don't need the old one. Nor do you need the task bar at the bottom of the desktop.

    However, you're not forced to do this. You can have your desktop just like it was in Win 7 (bar the start button) and ignore the Start screen if you don't like it. After I log in, I am taken direct to my old style desktop.
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  9. #609


    Quote Originally Posted by mart4494 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    I don't see this Start Screen that always blocks my desktop when launched is generally better than the old Start menu that has a compact design that does not block the whole Desktop. That is what defenders of the Metro seems to not understand on the side of those who criticize it and letting it show is not obvious for novices at all who are used of the familiar Start button that they removed and replaced with this hidden spot on the left with lesser functionality. That's one of the stupidest UI decisions they have ever made.
    This though has little if anything to do with whether users are in favour of Metro or not. MS has decided IMO that their future income is dependant upon a percentage of the paid downloaded apps and monthly cloud subscriptions. Personally I prefer to 'own' my software and keep my files on my PC. I am not interested in downloading apps either. Just look though at how much they are spending promoting cloud computing in the computer press so downloading apps is a follow on from that.

    I doubt whether MS are going to offer the classic desktop option when Win8 is released which will be a sad state of affairs as from all accounts the underlying Win8 OS is superior to Win7.
    It has paid dividends handsomely for Apple which already offers iCloud, App Store, and the next version of Mac OS X will tie into the cloud further. I'm sure the iUser will embrace it, not so sure about the Windows folks. Which is why I think Microsoft needs to break Win8 to different products with their own target base rather than deliver one single package that's made for all purposes.

    If it took over a decade to get rid of Windows XP, it will take even longer to get rid of Windows 7 especially Win8 offers no clear advantages.
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  10. #610


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    Fellows, I think I'll have to back off 50%. Touchscreens replacing regular screens are the wave of the future, along with a mouse and keyboard.
    I have a hard time envisioning someone working for 8 hours on a 22" touchscreen. His arms will fall off. I already use a mouse with a scrollball so that I can rest my arms on the armrests of my chair. A normal mouse already gives me pains in the arm.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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