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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #451


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    You cannot be so narrow-minded you think we will only be allowed to install Metro apps? Bad trolling, really.

    Kari
    That largely depends on the future MS have planned for the OS...

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    Did you mean paradigm?
    No, I meant paragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Did you mean paradigm?
    No, I meant paragon.

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    Oh well, I guess we all perceive excellence in different ways
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  4. #454


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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    People keep rehashing the 'mobile' argument and it really has nothing to do with that. I wouldn't buy a hand held device besed on the OS I use on my desktop and I certainly wouldn't buy an OS for my desktop, based on something I hold in my hand.
    They call it "convergence" nowadays......

    Cheers,
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    They call it "convergence" nowadays......
    That is an excellent point. Convergence has big advantages for the user and for the manufacturer.

    For the user because he deals with only one interface on a variety of devices - and it is the norm today that people have PCs and mobile devices.

    For the manufacturer because he has to maintain only one base system. That saves them HUGE maintenance cost especially if there will be planned follow-up releases. And anybody who has ever developed operating systems knows that it is impossible to keep multiple OS versions in sync once they are out the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    People keep rehashing the 'mobile' argument and it really has nothing to do with that. I wouldn't buy a hand held device besed on the OS I use on my desktop and I certainly wouldn't buy an OS for my desktop, based on something I hold in my hand.
    They call it "convergence" nowadays......

    Cheers,
    Thanks for the heads up
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    They call it "convergence" nowadays......
    That is an excellent point. Convergence has big advantages for the user and for the manufacturer.

    For the user because he deals with only one interface on a variety of devices - and it is the norm today that people have PCs and mobile devices.

    For the manufacturer because he has to maintain only one base system. That saves them HUGE maintenance cost especially if there will be planned follow-up releases. And anybody who has ever developed operating systems knows that it is impossible to keep multiple OS versions in sync once they are out the door.
    Convergence means coming together, it doesn't mean implementing exactly the same features on every device. Convergence is a good thing, for all the reasons you've mentioned, but there has to be limits. What works well for a small hand held device, doesn't necessarily work well for 30" desktop display.
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  8. #458


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    I doubt it


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I own few Autodesk and Adobe products that cost me for each, more than an average pc
    I'm pretty sure when these products become available as a Metro App they will be a lot cheaper as they cant be copied.
    Assuming that you can't obtain illegal Metro apps, the cost will go up, because if you want Autodesk, you will have to buy it from "the only game in town".

    The software producer will be able to charge whatever they want,
    without having to worry about people just downloading it for nothing.
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  9. #459


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    They call it "convergence" nowadays......
    That is an excellent point. Convergence has big advantages for the user and for the manufacturer.

    For the user because he deals with only one interface on a variety of devices - and it is the norm today that people have PCs and mobile devices.

    For the manufacturer because he has to maintain only one base system. That saves them HUGE maintenance cost especially if there will be planned follow-up releases. And anybody who has ever developed operating systems knows that it is impossible to keep multiple OS versions in sync once they are out the door.
    Convergence means coming together, it doesn't mean implementing exactly the same features on every device. Convergence is a good thing, for all the reasons you've mentioned, but there has to be limits. What works well for a small hand held device, doesn't necessarily work well for 30" desktop display.
    So what do you suggest they do without ending up with several seperate distros.
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    Hi,

    So what do you suggest they do without ending up with several seperate distros.
    Having to have several distros is inevitable but it's no big deal for as long as the convergence is taking place underneath the surface and not in our faces as MS is trying to do now.

    View it as one emperor with a set of new clothes for every occasion if you like.

    Cheers,
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