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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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    What does that teach me - a new modern technical device needs a minimum of training. And an operating system is certainly more complex than a camera - although this one is pretty advanced too.
    @ WHS, spot on, most things need a little bit of training, even it seems the iPad. Windows 8 apart from a couple of little things needs very little training, for a new user on ARM, it will need no training.

    @area66, Apps will be a lot cheaper than buying full blown progs, if Android and IOS are anything to go by, and for the average user will be very easy as the store is straight in front of you. I've gotten to love buying Apps on my Android tablet and phone, some very good Apps for very little money. If this is the future count me in, I'm sick of looking all over the net for new progs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Your first exemple of Solitaire, is the most stupid thing I ever see, what is that, how can you play like this. In the second one, I can see the message but not the clock. So you have no way to play solitaire and see the clock, FAIL
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    Not quite the same, it's a different manufacture and a different OS. I'd be the first to suggest training for anyone going from Windows to a Mac or Linux.
    I think there is a similarity. Windows 8 is a new paragon - the entry to the mobile world. The future Win8 mobile devices will be a lot easier to operate if one is already familiar with the interface on the PC. Beats wrestling with Android.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    @area66, Apps will be a lot cheaper than buying full blown progs, if Android and IOS are anything to go by, .

    I have not and will not pay a single apps for my phone. I own few Autodesk and Adobe products that cost me for each, more than an average pc
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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Next step ( next Windows) will be to remove the desktop, so everyone will have to purchase apps from the Microsoft Metro Store.
    It is fully possible to go to the net and download and install non-MS Store apps without ever going to desktop, or install software from USB / CD / DVD launching installation from Start screen, so I see no relevance in your comment. Like saying that if they took taskbar away I could no longer see the time. Former has nothing to do with latter.

    Would be nice to read some real facts instead of hypothesis based on fiction.

    Kari
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    I own few Autodesk and Adobe products that cost me for each, more than an average pc
    I'm pretty sure when these products become available as a Metro App they will be a lot cheaper as they cant be copied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    It is fully possible to go to the net and download and install non-MS Store apps without ever going to desktop, or install software from USB / CD / DVD launching installation from Start screen, so I see no relevance in your comment. Like saying that if they took taskbar away I could no longer see the time. Former has nothing to do with latter.

    Would be nice to read some real facts instead of hypothesis based on fiction

    .Kari



    "The Windows Store will be the only means of distributing Metro-style apps to users; "

    $999.99 app, what the heck?


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I'm pretty sure when these products become available as a Metro App they will be a lot cheaper as they cant be copied.
    Are you serious, you think AutoCad can run in Metro ?

    please don't reply, I take a break from this Fanboyish thing
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    You cannot be so narrow-minded you think we will only be allowed to install Metro apps? Bad trolling, really.

    Kari
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Okay Calico, lets say I agree with what you're saying (and I do with some of it), so MS makes Windows 8 boot straight into the Desktop and brings back the start menu and everything else.
    It's not as black and white as that. I appreciate a lot of people are unhappy about loosing the start button, and for good reason, it's certainly a lot more configurable than the Metro start page. But, there's more to this than the start button. Leaving aside the lack of functionality in Metro, there's really very little in the way of symbiosis between the 'legacy' desktop and Metro and it's this lack or harmony, for many people, that 'grates'.

    In other words just put Metro on top of Windows. Who is going to bother to learn Metro, most people wont even bother with it at all. In other words they might as well not bother.
    That's exactly what Metro is, an additional layer on top of Windows and it shows. The underlying OS is built on the traditional Win32 API, whereas Metro is build on WinRT or the Windows Runtime - a glorified replacement for Silverlight. What MS should have done, at least with the fist release of this 'Windows Reimagined' [sic] is make the transition less of a punch in the mouth and more of a lovers caress.

    Maybe MS (just maybe) is doing it this way to force us to use and learn Metro, and later on when everyone has learnt it, they will give the option to boot into Windows from the start. This is only a guess off course, but it could be part of their plan. The other thing is, this is only the first instance of Metro, maybe there are plans to make it easier to multitask down the track.
    Forcing someone to do anything, is completely the the wrong way of doing things and I would hope that's not their intention. As far as the future is concerned, anything is possible and we'll have to see how Windows 8, on all platforms. takes off. At this point it's either going to fail miserably or be a reasonable success. I personally don't see it being a 'hit' in the same way Windows 7 was but it will appeal to a certain type of user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Not quite the same, it's a different manufacture and a different OS. I'd be the first to suggest training for anyone going from Windows to a Mac or Linux.
    I think there is a similarity.
    I think we'll have to agree to disagree

    Windows 8 is a new paragon
    Did you mean paradigm?

    the entry to the mobile world. The future Win8 mobile devices will be a lot easier to operate if one is already familiar with the interface on the PC. Beats wrestling with Android.
    People keep rehashing the 'mobile' argument and it really has nothing to do with that. I wouldn't buy a hand held device besed on the OS I use on my desktop and I certainly wouldn't buy an OS for my desktop, based on something I hold in my hand.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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