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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I havent even heard of any of these sites, I have been to a very well known huge Windows site and the overwhelming majority were in favor of Windows 8. Also a lot of Mac users use Windows and a lot of them are trying Windows 8, and guess what they like it.
    A place like hardocp.com has no allegiance to MS, they're not gonna hold back, plus it's a reputable site, and the reviews of 8 over there aren't so hot. Go read the forum at MacRumors. Same thing. I'm not arguing 8 will be a flop. But to say the vast majority of reviews so far are rosy is just not accurate. I mean, they've been writing stuff like this since last summer:

    Windows 8 Will Be a Tough Sell for Businesses

    I'm reading no stories, and hardly any comments from regular business people on sites like this and others, that take the opposite POV from that linked story. (I don't read everything, I'm not saying they're not out there.) But even if you assume everyone who dislikes 8 is irrational, it doesn't change the fact that MS is facing a huge uphill battle. How will that eat into tablet or phone sales? If at all? Who knows. The narrative for PCs has pretty much been set, and turning that around will be incredible difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    The main problem is going to be businesses, but they never even went over to Windows 7 either, so tell me whats wrong with Windows 7.
    ho I see the business don't go over 7, so explain me thoses stats; thoses are North Americe stats, here Windows 7 is way over XP , XP stay high in world stats because of the third world country.

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  3. #423


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I build my own systems , no wonder I dont know these sites. The site I'm referring to is full of professionals, Developers,Programmers and business types. I.

    I have a question for the Windows 8 defenders, experts developers and programers ....... Where is the print button in the Mail Metro App ? Of course a phone OS as no printer Ö. So you told me that if I donít purchase Windows 8 I don't evolve?
    ctrl + p will print in Metro mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I build my own systems , no wonder I dont know these sites. The site I'm referring to is full of professionals, Developers,Programmers and business types. I.

    I have a question for the Windows 8 defenders, experts developers and programers ....... Where is the print button in the Mail Metro App ? Of course a phone OS as no printer Ö. So you told me that if I donít purchase Windows 8 I don't evolve?
    ctrl + p will print in Metro mail.
    So we have to memorize numerous short key to use this new advance OS ?
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    Windows 8 : Thrown into a multi-tasking mosh pit

    In other news:
    It's not really necessary to visit third-party sites to get a feel for the general disdain people have for the 'Windows Reimagined' [sic] just read Building Windows 8
    At Calico, I'll see if I can find the thread I was talking about later.

    On the above, I cant see anything too negative apart form the multitasking, and if they were to drop that entirely I could definitely see problems.
    Like I've said before, I think MS, will look after the business side of things, if not they could lose a large slice of that market. For the average user I think Windows 8 is a bonus with its two systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post

    Like I've said before, I think MS, will look after the business side of things, if not they could lose a large slice of that market. For the average user I think Windows 8 is a bonus with its tow systems.
    so, to reply to the subject of this tread; they are a risk that Windows 8 is a bigger flop than Vista. And what if MS with Windows 8 , still fail in the phone and tablet market ?
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    The main problem is going to be businesses, but they never even went over to Windows 7 either, so tell me whats wrong with Windows 7.
    This really harks back to thh post I made yesterday. Businesses won't simply adopt a new operating system, with all the inherent problems it brings, just because the company behind the OS wants them to. There has to be a substantial business reason to reinvest in hardware, training, applications, deployment, support etc.

    For a great many companies the transition from Windows XP to Windows 7 is a major step and the similarities between the two operating systems are much greater than between Windows XP and Windows 8, or even Windows 7 and Windows 8 if we just talk Metro. For simple home users, the Metro interface may be ideal but as the earlier video clearly showed, it's going to take a lot of people, accustomed to certain things, being in certain places, time to work out how to do things and for many, the frustration will probably lead them straight back to an earlier version of the OS, or even a completely different platform.

    The fact that MS have just published a list of keybiard shortcuts and the talk about having to include various tutorials with the release product, speak volumes about the 'intuitiveness' of the OS. Don't forget, what we're seeing now, is what MS believe is the finished product.
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    ho I see the business don't go over 7, so explain me thoses stats; thoses are North Americe stats, here Windows 7 is way over XP , XP stay high in world stats because of the third world country.
    I dont see how you can just pick out one country for stats, MS, has to cater to the world.
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    The fact that MS have just published a list of keybiard shortcuts and the talk about having to include various tutorials with the release product, speak volumes about the 'intuitiveness' of the OS. Don't forget, what we're seeing now, is what MS believe is the finished product.
    If people have to go to classes for the iPad, surely a little learning of Windows 8 wouldnt be such a bad thing. Maybe it is, I mean we've gone fromstick shift to Automatic vehicles. Dont forget, this is still a very early beta, Microsoft could well be taking all this on board as we speak and make minor adjustments to the system, unless you think Metro is a complete waste of time and needs to be dumped all together.
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    A company need to innovate to stay on top. Take a look at what happened to Kodak because they could not keep up with the digital changeover to cameras. Microsoft has done this by falling behind with tablet and smartphone OS. In their panic to catch up they have devoted all their resources to coming up with what they consider an innovative interface for these devices and they are trying to use their leverage in the PC field to do this. Unfortunately I feel their Metro interface on a PC leaves a lot to be desired.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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