Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #401


    Posts : 93
    W2K8S R2 STD, W7 ULTIMATE X64


    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Actually it only took the majority of this forum less than a month to learn how the metro menu works, as well as the work around we have discovered. Also there is a start button available for Windows 8 call Vistart. You can download it here. ViStart Free Download

    But for the most part, we want to use the new Metro interface, I, myself am a power user, and this has been a total joy for me.
    How much time it takes one to learn how to use something is irrelevant when that something is of no use to anyone that is already acquainted with something called a startmenu that does everything it needs to do: start an application.

    Those who aren't quite likely never used a tablet nor a fancy phone either.

    Now, assuming we all learn to use that new startscreen, how many extra hours of non-productiveness will it take to sort of make it do what a simple startmenu does?

    Having to install workarounds or do endless tweaking on an OS to get back the bits and pieces that are deliberatedly left out to shove something "new" down our collective throats is not my idea of productivity nor is it my idea of progress either. Far from it.

    After all we're talking about a new "desktop" operating system here, not a new pair of shoes.....

    It's just my opinion but if MS would offer W8 as an improved version of W7 (which it is under the bonnet) than I think most people would have been happy.
    As it stands it now comes with even more bells and whistles nobody needs than Vista plus the major handicap of having to work on a desktop as if it were a tablet?


    So, lets get the "vintage" startmenu back and a possibility to get rid of that Metro stuff no one on a desktop needs anyhow. Can't be that hard, can it?
    What you're left with is a mighty fast OS, virtually zero learning curve and if it needs to be able to talk to tablets and phones (I am all for it) then fine but keep it out of my sight, thank you very much....

    Sorry about the rant....

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #402


    Posts : 142
    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Actually it only took the majority of this forum less than a month to learn how the metro menu works, as well as the work around we have discovered. Also there is a start button available for Windows 8 call Vistart. You can download it here. ViStart Free Download

    But for the most part, we want to use the new Metro interface, I, myself am a power user, and this has been a total joy for me.


    You shouldn't have to install a 3rd party app to get functionality that has been present for nearly 20 years. Add an option in 'personalize' to do this instead, rather than remove it altogether.

    Glad you like the Metro feature; seriously. To each his own. I'm also a power user, but I provide support for many people who aren't. The masses are not going to like this feature, myself included.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #403


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    you can easily set it up to not use the Metro start screen more than once a day
    You can also set it up so that you hardly ever use the desktop - at least for the majority of the users. Geeks may still want the desktop.
    Wow let me guess; you never work in an office ? If you launch Word, it go to the desktop, of course offices workers are a minority. always the same "as long as it's good for me"
    I worked in an office for only 35 years. But maybe that was not long enough to get your level of experience.

    I just am trying to be pragmatic. Now that we got the thing, let's make the best of it. The only other option is to stay behind or use another OS.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #404


    Posts : 142
    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Just my 2 cents:


    I'm reading all these complaints about how difficult it is to find something, or how something works on Windows 8 CP. "I am an experienced Windows veteran since version XXX and I can not find this and can not do that", that seems to be a common nominator.

    OK. I am an experienced Windows user, since absolute beginning of Windows. When I first saw Win 8 CP it was clear it is so different than previous versions that even experienced users might need to consult manuals and other written instructions.

    I did so. And now I have absolutely no problems to navigate deeper and deeper on Win 8 CP, find what I need. The point is we should forget now the fact we are "experts" and start instead reading manuals. I know it's cool to brag that "only n00bs read manuals, I do not need them for I am a pro", but it's wrong attitude.

    Control Panel cannot be found:BS! Can not hibernate: BS! Can not change this or that: BS!

    Stop complaining. Read.

    - Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    - Windows 8 Consumer Preview Guide (pdf)

    Kari
    +1


    It's not that difficult, you can easily set it up to not use the Metro start screen more than once a day, for those that don't like it.
    If it was Win7 SP3, then there would be just as many discussing why they don't like it and won't use it.
    Change is inevitable, but it doesn't mean you have to, many used XP for 10 years or more.
    Life goes on.

    I still use XP in a VM window. I have to because some applications I use at work aren't compatible with Win7.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #405


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Now that we got the thing, let's make the best of it. The only other option is to stay behind or use another OS.
    We are far to have the thing yet. First it's not yet on sale, and it's not yet accepted in the corporate world. Windows XP still the standard in many of them. The title of the tread is “This will be Microsoft biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.” And in this regard, well it’s in good direction to be. It’s irrelevant if retires peoples and geeks like it or not, the market is elsewhere.

    I don’t have a single business customer who run on Vista, the one who get it with their pc was downgrade to XP or update to 7, I expect the same for Windows 8.

    I carry my notebook since a week to ask my customers what they think of Windows 8 ; they don’t like it.

    My 78 years old dad, find solitaire very ugly, he said he can't see anymore the clock or who is sending a message in live when he play. He also ask me where are the other games. What a fail to not even see the clock.

    BEST OPTION; say no to Microsoft, it's not what we want
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #406


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    area 66 - I think you are dreaming. Nobody is going to tell MS what to do. They have a strategy and they will make it work, come hell or high water. They may make a few tweaks here and there. But from now to RTM they have hardly any time to make any significant changes - especially since most of their resources are probably tied up making ARM support work.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #407


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    I know people will probably think I'm joking, but there's a guy on Cnet who teaches iPad classes. If people need to be taught to use an iPad, then surely a couple of lessons wouldn't hurt on Windows 8.

    Actually I hope Microsoft leaves Windows 8 virtually unchanged, except for a couple of bug fixes etc. I happen to like having two different systems. Maybe they need to bring out a dumb version as well, seeing that people have to take lessons to learn the iPad.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #408


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I know people will probably think I'm joking, but there's a guy on Cnet who teaches iPad classes. If people need to be taught to use an iPad, then surely a couple of lessons wouldn't hurt on Windows 8.
    Hi there
    Nothing surprises me when it comes to the stupidness or otherwise of individuals.

    A few years ago "Instamatic" cameras were popular -- these had a film encased in a cassette -- you simply opened the camera and gave the cassette in for "Film Processing.

    It was amazing how often you heard people ask the staff "Please can you Load my instamatic camera" when they had to put a new cassette in. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #409


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Well they have instructions with popup toasters and kettles, nothing surprises me either, but I must admit I was surprised when this guy said he teaches people to use an iPad.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #410


    Posts : 93
    W2K8S R2 STD, W7 ULTIMATE X64


    Hi,

    Maybe they need to bring out a dumb version as well, seeing that people have to take lessons to learn the iPad.
    O dear, there's me thinking this actually is the dumb version.....

    Cheers,
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
Related Threads
Solved Biggest bug ever maybe? in General Support
Ok so here is the deal I have 2 separate hardrives both 1tb drives.....1 has windows 8.1 other is used for storage... but here is the strangest thing ever. All I did was set my other computer to read the storage drive in home groups and now it shows i have 3 TB drives.. I even put like 600mb in the...
This will be a rant, or some thoughts I have on tablets, Microsoft, Ram and Hard drives, and the direction Microsoft and others are going. I'm a PC user, that doesn't own a smartphone or table either windows or android. I have been looking at windows tablets and android tablets in general to get...
W8 on iPad- the biggest mystery in Drivers & Hardware
Okay, I've researched this online for an hour, and have found old posts from February through April 2012 that iPad will NOT get windows 8 on it... Technically it's possible and impossible at the same time. I'm wondering if there is any NEW info on this, and if it will eventually be possible or...
Read more at source: Top 10 biggest drawbacks of Windows RT | Microsoft - CNET News See also: https://www.eightforums.com/windows-8-news/10376-7-reasons-why-windows-rt-works.html
:cry: This is bad - what are you suppose to do - im so angry - i dont think i will sleep - drivers wont install - dissappear on my laptop via Windows Update. On my pc i just got avermedia hybrid tv driver to install but it took 15 minutes as it loaded at snails pace, after several attempts (about...
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook