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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #281


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I have just had a little attempt at winpe 4.0.




    I gave up trying to do it from within wcp - the metro ui is a massive hindrance for anything like this.

    I ended up doing it from within win 7.

    Haven't got everything working as I would like just yet - not surprising - it took me 3 years to get winpe 3.0 ( now 3.1 ) right.

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    That's great news, looking forward to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LovingWindows View Post
    The only major flop(s) Microsoft had (in my opinion) were XP (I couldn't wait to get off XP) ...
    That would put you in the minority though.
    Microsoft's biggest problem during the last 5 years, has been its failure to convince people to stop using XP.

    According to Marketshare, XP still has a 42% market share.
    That means it is more widely used than Vista and every other desktop OS combined (excluding W7).

    Operating system market share
    Depends on the stats you look at, StatCounter says Win7 45% and XP 34%.

    StatCounter Operating Systems



    My glass is half full, the top half

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  2. #282


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    Windows 7 and Windows 8 CP


    As an IT Manager I can say that after testing the customer preview, I will not be recommending it's installation across the company until there is an option that allows users to continue to use Windows just as they usually do and have a chance to use or migrate to Metro when WE need it, NOT Microsoft.

    The cost of training, the user frustration and efficiency lost will potentially put off a great many businesses.

    Whilst under the bonnet (hood), things may well work faster and with greater efficiency, the interface is simply atrocious, not intuitive and will IMO prove to be a great undoing for Microsoft if they continue bullishly in one direction, simply choosing to ignore what so many are telling them.

    It surely can't take much effort to build in the option to choose between two potential interfaces?

    On a Tablet or Phone, Metro may well work wonderfully and I do get the idea of integration across platforms.

    But this should come with a choice for laptop and desktop users.

    After all, how many of us are likely to migrate to a Windows phone from our trusty and already easy to use iphone and Android models?

    Be very careful Microsoft.

    This could really break the bank and the Company.
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  3. #283


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    Vista and Win7


    That must be a problem indeed. For us Geeks it is fun to play with the Metro. But for businesses it means a lot of cost for training and trouble shooting plus a whole lot of employess who will whine because they are completely alienated and are not willing to learn. They want their 3 buttons that they usually click and change is not in the cards for them.

    An option for the two modes would definitely be the solution. I would still choose the Metro because I find it really intriguing and fun to use.
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  4. #284


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    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    I am missing something, if people don't like metro than just run windows 8 in desktop mode, looks and acts just like windows 7, the whole point of this OS is to give people a choice, if you are on a touchscreen tablet or smartphone than use metro interface, if one is on a desktop, than use it in desktop mode like windows 7.

    Granted, I don't see much difference between windows 7 and windows 8 in desktop mode, I guess that's the problem, don't see much need to upgrade for that.
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  5. #285


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    Windows 8.1 64bit Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I've seen several screenshots showing category titles on the Metro start screen.

    How are people creating those category titles?
    Click the magnifying glass in the bottom right hand corner to 'zoom out'. Right click on a tile within a group you wish to categorise then select 'Name Group' from the options at the bottom of the screen.
    Thanks for the help. Do you know how to create a NEW group? I have the three Groups with the default install, but I want to make some more.
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  6. #286


    Palm Coast FLorida
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    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    Quote Originally Posted by Burgurne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I've seen several screenshots showing category titles on the Metro start screen.

    How are people creating those category titles?
    Click the magnifying glass in the bottom right hand corner to 'zoom out'. Right click on a tile within a group you wish to categorise then select 'Name Group' from the options at the bottom of the screen.
    Thanks for the help. Do you know how to create a NEW group? I have the three Groups with the default install, but I want to make some more.
    Just drag an app to an open part of your screen where no other apps are, it will just start another group, for people on 1920x1080 screen resolution you can have up to 5 groups, 6 if you tweak the settings.
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    Windows 10 (64 bit)


    Workers can't escape Windows 8 Metro - Microsoft COO

    CIOs reminded productivity soars when fun is eliminated

    Windows 8 will help people work harder and faster, argues Microsoft Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner, because the "immersive" Metro user interface removes all their distractions.
    Highlighting business-centric features in the new OS, Turner insists Windows 8's fondness for fondleslabs will boost office productivity. The controversial handheld gadget-friendly Metro UI (described by our Andrew Orlowski as "a huge negative") will be an asset for businesses, Turner reckons, because full-screen apps will immerse workers in their spreadsheets, pushing distractions out of sight and ramping up output.


    Full article at:

    Workers can't escape Windows 8 Metro - Microsoft COO ? The Register
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  8. #288


    Posts : 120
    Windows 8.1 + StartIsBack + AeroGlass


    Quote Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post
    Workers can't escape Windows 8 Metro - Microsoft COO

    CIOs reminded productivity soars when fun is eliminated

    Windows 8 will help people work harder and faster, argues Microsoft Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner, because the "immersive" Metro user interface removes all their distractions.
    Highlighting business-centric features in the new OS, Turner insists Windows 8's fondness for fondleslabs will boost office productivity. The controversial handheld gadget-friendly Metro UI (described by our Andrew Orlowski as "a huge negative") will be an asset for businesses, Turner reckons, because full-screen apps will immerse workers in their spreadsheets, pushing distractions out of sight and ramping up output.


    Full article at:

    Workers can't escape Windows 8 Metro - Microsoft COO ? The Register
    LOL. Don't know why they bothered with Windows in the first place then. DOS was already as single-tasking and anti-distractions as it can get.
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  9. #289


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Just drag an app to an open part of your screen where no other apps are, it will just start another group, for people on 1920x1080 screen resolution you can have up to 5 groups, 6 if you tweak the settings.
    You can have as many groups as you want.
    I think you mean rows?
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  10. #290


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    That must be a problem indeed. For us Geeks it is fun to play with the Metro. But for businesses it means a lot of cost for training and trouble shooting plus a whole lot of employess who will whine because they are completely alienated and are not willing to learn. They want their 3 buttons that they usually click and change is not in the cards for them.

    An option for the two modes would definitely be the solution. I would still choose the Metro because I find it really intriguing and fun to use.
    This is exactly how I feel. Personally I really like the CP and will switch to 8 for my personal machines relatively soon after the release.

    On the flip side, I'm an IT consultant and will NOT recommend this to my clients because the transition will be a nightmare; costly and time-consuming. I don't know how MS claims that 8 will force users to be more productive when it will probably waste a month's worth of on-the-clock hours for the average employee to learn how to use the OS.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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