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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #201


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    42% Market Share


    Quote Originally Posted by LovingWindows View Post
    The only major flop(s) Microsoft had (in my opinion) were XP (I couldn't wait to get off XP) ...
    That would put you in the minority though.
    Microsoft's biggest problem during the last 5 years, has been its failure to convince people to stop using XP.

    According to Marketshare, XP still has a 42% market share.
    That means it is more widely used than Vista and every other desktop OS combined (excluding W7).

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  2. #202


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    windows 8 consumer preview


    Seems like I've heard this before.
    .........hmmmm
    Oyeah, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, XP, Windows 7 (purposely ignoring Vista). Change happens and you deal with it or get left behind. I hated the new look of Windows Vista when I first started using it. When I first looked at the Vista beta I was horrified by the sparse desktop and what I called "bubble gum" GUI. I hated the new start menu with its stupid search taking up useful space. The first thing I did, starting with XP, was set my screen to Classic Windows. Now I'm used to it, even like it. I turned on the Aero and pinned programs to the task bar and sticky notes on my desktop.
    Let me say first that I am using it on a tablet. I haven't had time to try it out yet on my PC. But I do use my tablet for work on the domain.
    Did I freak out a little when I loaded the Developer preview? You bet. I thought the Metro style was terrible. As a matter of fact I quickly found the hack to get my start menu back. Of course that hack doesn't work in the Consumer version, so after almost a week I've gotten used to the Metro style. But I spend most of my time on the desktop, because I'm using it for work. I've pinned my most used apps to the desktop, but I still go to the Start menu for the rest. I figured out how to resize and move the tiles around to give me the ones I use most on the first screen (just like I did on my android devices). Most of the programs I have installed that give me the option (check box during setup) to put them on the desktop have actually gone on the desktop not the Start menu.
    I'm just saying give it a chance. I refused to upgrade to Windows 7 for over a year and when I did I was glad. I suspect it will be same here. But than like I said I haven't tried it on the PC.
    BTW
    Microsoft only really needs it work for tablet and phone users for it to be a sucess.
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  3. #203


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    XP Vista, Windows 7 & 8


    The bottom line is people with their Internet phones will like Windows 8. This will be mostly young people such as high school students but for us older PC users this is a disaster. Iíve been with Microsoft since DOS 1 and Windows 8 does not belong on the PC, it belongs on someone Phone. I sure hope they do a lot of improvements before releasing the final version.
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  4. #204


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    Windows 10 (64 bit)


    The more I use Windows 8 the less I like it. I really do not like the Metro interface. I don't like the idea of Microsoft trying to make desktop users use an interface that is really designed for a portable device. When you try to include everything in one interface it becomes a compromise that few people will really like.
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  5. #205


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    Quote Originally Posted by lostsoul62 View Post
    The bottom line is people with their Internet phones will like Windows 8. This will be mostly young people such as high school students but for us older PC users this is a disaster. I’ve been with Microsoft since DOS 1 and Windows 8 does not belong on the PC, it belongs on someone Phone. I sure hope they do a lot of improvements before releasing the final version.
    By all accounts the Metro UI is it whether you love it or hate it. Judging though from a post a couple up from lehnerus2000 re market share I think MS are sure going to have their work cut out over this but only time will tell. Don't think though this version will go neutral. It will either be a roaring success or a total flop.
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  6. #206


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LovingWindows View Post
    The only major flop(s) Microsoft had (in my opinion) were XP (I couldn't wait to get off XP) ...
    That would put you in the minority though.
    Microsoft's biggest problem during the last 5 years, has been its failure to convince people to stop using XP.

    According to Marketshare, XP still has a 42% market share.
    That means it is more widely used than Vista and every other desktop OS combined (excluding W7).

    Operating system market share

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    I would differentiate between the question whether XP is a good OS and how much usage it has.

    It definitely is widely used because it has been around for such a long time and people got used to it. And that despite the fact that it is a very poor system in all regards. The UI is completely illogical.
    Last edited by whs; 05 Mar 2012 at 13:18.
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  7. #207


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LovingWindows View Post
    The only major flop(s) Microsoft had (in my opinion) were XP (I couldn't wait to get off XP) ...
    That would put you in the minority though.
    Microsoft's biggest problem during the last 5 years, has been its failure to convince people to stop using XP.

    According to Marketshare, XP still has a 42% market share.
    That means it is more widely used than Vista and every other desktop OS combined (excluding W7).

    Operating system market share

    Click image for larger version
    I would differentiate between the question whether XP is a good OS and how much usage it has.

    It definitely is widely used because it has been around for such a long time and people got used to it. And that despite the fact that it is a very poor system in all regards. The UI is completely illogical, drive
    Man do I ever agree, XP is so ten years ago. Never liked it much.
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  8. #208


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    I think someone at Microsoft seriously blow a gasket; I understand Windows 8 can be used on phone and tablet, but wtf they use the same Metro thing on their servers version, who will run a Windows 8 server on a phone or tablet.

    Those stupid menu on each side of the screen, I hope they gone have something for disable person, I canít see someone with a shaking hand try to grab the top of a Metro apps for close it. Why they are too stupid to at least include the possibility to right click a mouse to close the Metro apps ? They have a menu bar that open at the bottom when we right click, who is the monkey who forget to include a close button.
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  9. #209



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    Quote Originally Posted by HPDeskjet View Post
    Iíve been trying out the Consumer Preview for a couple of days now and it looks as though MS have chosen to make using the desktop UI in Windows we all know as difficult and frustrating as possible. On logging in for the first time you are confronted with the Metro start screen. It then takes ages to find things like the Network Centre, Control Panel, Windows Explorer etc. as they are not on the initial Metro start screen. You have to hunt around the entire OS to find them and then either make shortcuts to the Metro UI or pin them to the desktop taskbar to access them quickly. MS have also deliberately removed the old ĎStartí button from the bottom left hand corner of the desktop screen, making it a nightmare to navigate anywhere if you want to quickly open a programme that is not pinned to your desktop taskbar. This makes trying to work productively a complete joke. Whoever thought that removing the START button from the desktop screen was a good idea should be taken out and publicly flogged and pelted with rotten vegetables. A decision some brainless cretin at MS seems to have made.

    As for the Metro UI start screen, it works well on a mobile phone or tablet maybe but certainly not in the desktop environment. You can no longer simply install shortcuts to programmes on your desktop screen, they get placed on MSís new Metro start screen, a screen designed specifically for tablets and touch screen monitors in combination with swipe movements on the touchscreen. The entire Metro UI is designed for swiping across the screen on a tablet, not for desktop use with keyboard and mouse. There is no option to turn off the Metro UI and just use the familiar Windows desktop UI with Start button in the bottom left hand corner most Windows users are used to.

    As for trying to shut down your computer in Windows 8, it took me a search on Google to work out how to shut down the computer in Windows 8. Shutdown Windows 8 Consumer Preview ę FAQforge Unbelievably user unfriendly.

    This is going to be a disaster for Microsoft, a bigger flop than Vista ever was. I already dislike Windows 8 and thatís only after 2 days of using it with a keyboard and mouse. No company in their right mind is going to buy this nonsensical operating system when it comes to IT productivity and ease of use. What on Earth are Microsoft thinking? That companies will all dump their desktop computers and buy tablets with a 7″screen to use Windows 8 in the workplace and pay for a lot of IT training so employees can find their way around this horror? I really donít think so. Excel spreadsheets and writing long reports in Word on a 7 or 10 inch screen with touchscreen keyboard. Nice experience? Mmm, Idonít think so. More like buy Windows 8 and lose lots of money through a lack of productivity.

    So far, using Windows 8 is turning out to be the most frustrating and unenjoyable experience Iíve ever had on a desktop computer. MS have got a lot of work to do in order to make Windows 8 user friendly enough for those who prefer desktop computing to get any productive work done.

    If this is the future of Microsoft Windows it looks as though Iíll either be sticking with Windows 7, or Iíll be switching to Linux. By the looks of it I wont be in the minority. Welcome to Vista 2 from Microsoft.
    You could not have put it any better- i feel the same way
    robin
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  10. #210


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    I think someone at Microsoft seriously blow a gasket; I understand Windows 8 can be used on phone and tablet, but wtf they use the same Metro thing on their servers version, who will run a Windows 8 server on a phone or tablet.

    Those stupid menu on each side of the screen, I hope they gone have something for disable person, I can’t see someone with a shaking hand try to grab the top of a Metro apps for close it. Why they are too stupid to at least include the possibility to right click a mouse to close the Metro apps ? They have a menu bar that open at the bottom when we right click, who is the monkey who forget to include a close button.
    I really don't see it as any big deal. Maybe a disappointment but my Win7 64bit rig with SSD is working just fine so I'll stay with that if the Metro UI is going to be final. I don't have any interest in cloud computing apart from GMail and am not interested in downloading paid apps from MS. Win8 may be slightly faster but I can only work so fast with Photoshop, InDesign, etc so it's not going to make any difference to me in real time.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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