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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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    7hrs. to wipe a drive? You are certainly spending far too long. You could have backed up the files you wanted and simply nuked the C primary in only a matter of a few minutes by booting live from disk. The command prompt option to run the DiskPart tool to use the clean command only takes a matter of seconds to wipe a 1tb drive.

    Incompatibility errors are to be expected with any newer version of any OS to begin with. Unfortunately you found that one out the hard way.

    Norton 360 is an old flavor of Symantec's wares with the Norton Internet Security 2010 or newer being far more suitable for both 7 and 8. I use a totally different av program entirely that did not have any problem with either CP or RP to go on while that after examing the updated form of MS Security Essentials renamed to replace the Windows Defender already included in the latest.

    The new form of WD remains dormant once you install your usual protections on unless like you saw a clash or other problem comes up. You should have still been able to remove Norton without the need to wipe everything. Unfotunately too little known and too late to be any good for you now however.

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  2. #1502


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by evereti View Post
    Why would I want the extra complication in my life of trying to remember which UI to use for which app????
    I'm sorry. What? Seriously? If you think this, how do you function in life when you have so many choices? What clothes to wear today, having to remember how to tie your shoes, oh my god.. which pedal in your car should you depress to accelerate? Oh my god! How do we function?

    Seriously. That is one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard. Out of all the choices I have to make today, which UI to use rates about a 0 on the complexity scale.

    Besides. You *DON'T* have to remember which UI to use. You just click the freaking icon and it automatically goes to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by evereti View Post
    The simple fact is that the none of the Apps on Metro are up to the job, so using your logic I will go to the apps I like and they are on the Desktop, so Goodnight Metro.
    Really? You seriously think none of the metro apps work to your standards? You're saying the weather app simply isn't functional? That Minesweeper is broken? That Netflix just doesn't work?

    There are plenty of Metro apps that work just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by evereti View Post
    I have no doubt Win8 will have a loyal following with all the Winboys, just like Apple Fanboys would never dream of owning a Galaxy. I'll stick with Win7 until it dies of old age.
    I am quite fond of my Galaxy SIII. So please don't put words in my mouth. If you have no intention of using Windows 8, why are you even here? Are we seriously supposed to take your opinion when you don't even use it?
    Last edited by Mystere; 04 Nov 2012 at 15:41.
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  3. #1503


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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    7hrs. to wipe a drive? You are certainly spending far too long. You could have backed up the files you wanted and simply nuked the C primary in only a matter of a few minutes by booting live from disk. The command prompt option to run the DiskPart tool to use the clean command only takes a matter of seconds to wipe a 1tb drive.
    If you do a "Quick Format", the drive doesn't get wiped at all (only the index gets wiped).
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  4. #1504


    Welcome to EightForums, AncientDragon. Good to have you.

    7 hours seems extreme to me. Wiping a drive, especially with "military standards", is quite different than formatting. Yes? Is that what you were performing? Just curious.
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  5. #1505


    @ Mystere answering evereti.

    Right on, Bro! :thumbup: I mean, OMG, wtf have we as intellectual humans come to?!!! Geez......
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  6. #1506


    Posts : 162
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    I still don't understand why people are still bashing Windows 8.

    I have Windows 8 setup to where it boots to the desktop. I installed start8 to get the start menu. At this point I don't see much difference from Windows 7. I have not messed with the tiles much yet. I tried a few metro apps but thought they were to plain and basic so I'm going to wait till the Windows 8 store gets better.

    You do not have to use the tile side just go to the desktop. If anyone has really given Windows 8 a fair try they will see the difference between the tiles part and the desktop and the desktop is not that much of a difference.

    My daughters laptop had Windows 7 and it had a virus(she let anti virus expire). I formated the drive and put on Windows 8. I installed start 8 for the start menu also. I put all the programs on she uses and setup the desktop pretty much as she had in Windows 7. 5 days latter I asked her how she like the new Windows 8 and she said I didn't know you put Windows 8 on my laptop. She thought it was still Windows 7. My daughter is a casual user of Windows so maybe that's why she didn't notice. Most people I know are that way.

    I don't care for the tiles myself. I would rather have icons like Android. I like to have folders on my screen then my apps in the folders. I don't see a way to do that with Windows 8. Maybe in time Microsoft will change this and add folder support or a third party app will be developed. Windows 8 needs time to evolve. I can remember when Android first came out, it had growing pains.

    So before you bash Windows 8, try it out for a while. Don't just read other peoples blogs and you tube videos. Actually install it and try it. Install the Preview release. I forget when it expires though.

    So far I like Windows 8. The only thing that did not work was my Team Group SR1 16GB flash drive other than that all my hardware works.

    that's my 2 cents

    Jim
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  7. #1507


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    It's 1 year I try it , is this enough because I still find very annoying things that make me prefer Windows 7. I can deal with those annoyances but you will not make me say that I love Windows 8, this is not true, this the worst OS Interface Microsoft did until now. It's plain retarded to force peoples to use hot corners with a mouse on a desktop. And yes I know about keyboard shortcut, but all my customers and peoples around me don't

    Windows 8 as so many good features, but they simply ruin it with this hot corner retarded interface. Where was the problem to make options to make it more friendly to mouse or touchscreen, where the users can choose ?

    I have never been fan boyish in anything, but to not admit the problems some peoples are facing with Windows 8 interfaces, is pure blind fan boyish
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  8. #1508


    Posts : 162
    Windows 8 Pro


    I admit there are changes in Windows 8. Some I like, some I don't but that will be with every OS. Nothing so far is a deal breaker for me. I am just giving it time to get used to it. There is going to be changes, you either roll with it or move on to something else.
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  9. #1509


    Posts : 162
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    Different tastes for different people. When I first read about Windows 8 I read that it sucked so my first thought was I will wait for Windows 9 but then I decided to download the Preview Release and after a couple of months I liked it. Again I use the desktop part. I don't use the tiles much yet.

    Just because one person hates Windows 8 doesn't mean the next person won't. Most people will fall some where in between love---hate. Some people don't like change so they won't give Windows 8 a fair chance. Each person needs to sit down on a Windows 8 PC and give it a try.

    All I am saying applies to a desktop as I have not had a chance to play with a ARM tablet. At this point I wouldn't want a ARM tablet. To little for to much money. A tablet that will run full Windows Pro at $1,000 plus is over priced for me also. I bought a Motorola Xoom Tablet 6 months ago for $399 and it's just fine. If Microsoft changes the way it does metro or what ever they call it I might consider a ARM tablet. One screen and tiles only does not cut it with me. Way to much on the screen and not much of a way to organize my apps. Tile are very limited way of doing things. So ya Windows 8 tiles side sucks to me.


    As for the new stuff like the hot corners, I'm getting used to it and over time it will be just as normal as every thing in Windows 7 was. You just have to take the bad with the good. Each person needs to try it and decide for them selves.
    Jim
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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jbfoster View Post
    Each person needs to sit down on a Windows 8 PC and give it a try.

    Jim
    WHY ? If someone is comfortable with Windows 7, WHY he should sit and give a try to Widows 8, WHY ?
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