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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #1421


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scampo View Post
    Completely useless... maybe a touch of objectivity might prevail here. I've upgraded 3 of our four PCs to Windows 8 and am getting used to it. We moved to Windows phones a month ago and feel that they are much more user friendly than our previous Android phones. We haven't had that same wonderful feeling with Windows 8 yet but a few tweaks here and there and a bit of getting used to it is making me feel it's a worthwhile upgrade. I think the "style" feels "dumbed down" and a touch infantile - but that's much the way of things these days. It's early days - it will work in the end.
    That's really a shame. If you had waited a month to upgrade your phones, then you could be running Windows 8 on those as well. Then you could have the same apps on both (windows phone 7 apps are different from 8 apps. 8 apps are the same on all devices, while 7 apps were specific to phones).

    Windows 8 allows you to purchase an app once and run it on up to 5 devices running some form of Windows 8.

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  2. #1422


    Thanks for replying. You make good points for sure, but we got the phones well below half price because they were v7.5. Still amazing though. I'll be honest I was expecting them to be good but I really didn't think I'd feel that the phones (Nokia 800) would put my HTC Sensation so much in the shade as it has. The metro titles are vastly easier to use. The new Nokia phone will be stunning I expect but a premium.
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  3. #1423


    When I came across Microsoft's offer of downloading this new version of Windows for 24.00, I thought, what's the catch? Was there a catch? seems far too cheap a price for Microsoft, Well after installing and testing and every day usage, yes there clearly was a catch, and it is simply this, we have been conned into a new version of windows, which is simply a cut down concoction of windows 7, with a start interface that's clearly not desktop friendly and clearly designed for mobile and tablet devices. Why bolt this useless piece of software on to a desktop OS? Is Microsoft expecting users to, shift from their clearly superior iphone and android tablets and mobiles? If they are then they are deluded.

    Some are heralding the speed of Windows 8, well that's not too difficult to achieve, given the way Microsoft have stripped down the graphical user interface, removing Aero Glass, Dynamic Icon resizing, to name but a few of the obvious software butchery that has gone on. Metro or Windows Live tiles, now where do I start with this! Firstly very poor deployment in quality of presentation as a concept, that is in no way going to be a threat to Google's Android, or Apple IOS 6 interface, and the usual Microsoft buggy experience in practice. Out of the box, there were too many Metro/Live tile apps from the Windows 8 market that failed to work correctly, from News apps to Net Radio to Video, all falling over on first run! Why was I not surprised, it's after all the Microsoft way. One can be forgiven for thinking that this version of Windows is a rather frantic attempt to keep up with the current revolution going on in the Google Android and Apple market.

    In conclusion forget the Microsoft Hype, this was clearly a missed opportunity by the Giant to make sound progress on their Windows 7 version, Windows 8 is a miss match fudge of ideas, that clearly demonstrates that Microsoft are losing their way. With the wealth of resources both financially, and intellectually, it's hard to believe that this version of Windows is the best that Microsoft could have come up with, to say that this is a missed opportunity is an understatement, and I'm sure most will feel it's even a waste of the modest 24.00.
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  4. #1424


    Both of us here think our Nokia Windows phones are w-a-y more user-friendly and stylish compared to our Samsung and HTC Android ones so your dislike is not universal. Amazon reviews on Windows phones are invariably 4-5* and there are plenty of them; every review is positive, too.

    As for Windows 8, it is much quicker to start up and has many features that are an improvement. I've put SSDs in all our PCs here and with Windows 8 the start up times are impressive to say the least. I like the pulling down of an app, too, for example, with a mouse swipe; but... much of what you say rings true and there is a sense here of being underwhelmed. There is too much missing - a clock and date, a start/restart/log-off button, for example. That said, IE10 is good - at least we have an excellent spell-check now (at last).

    I'm glad it was 24.99, not the 70.00 I was expecting.
    Last edited by Scampo; 31 Oct 2012 at 13:47. Reason: spelling
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  5. #1425


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    When I came across Microsoft's offer of...
    Why do you feel the need to spam this across multiple messages?
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  6. #1426


    I missed this thread before posting, and agree with the original OP, and as such posted above, that's not spam, but repetition for emphasis, as clearly it's needed in some quarters.............
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  7. #1427


    I really enjoy the news apps in Win8 & "One Notes", a much need feature. The screen "Clipper" is very helpful.

    I remember leaning to program in "MS Basic". It was a steep learning curve! Especially programming so that you did not end up with "Spaghetti Basic"
    For those that don't know what "Spaghetti Basic" was, it was a program in MS Basic that worked but, could not figured out by looking at it or almost impossible to add to.

    Win8 has a steep learning curve but I think it will be Microsoft's & users benefit.

    All the hate mail against MS Win8 on the net is just that!

    Tu
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  8. #1428


    Posts : 80
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    When I came across Microsoft's offer of downloading this new version of Windows for 24.00, I thought, what's the catch? Was there a catch? seems far too cheap a price for Microsoft, Well after installing and testing and every day usage, yes there clearly was a catch, and it is simply this, we have been conned into a new version of windows, which is simply a cut down concoction of windows 7, with a start interface that's clearly not desktop friendly and clearly designed for mobile and tablet devices. Why bolt this useless piece of software on to a desktop OS? Is Microsoft expecting users to, shift from their clearly superior iphone and android tablets and mobiles? If they are then they are deluded.

    Some are heralding the speed of Windows 8, well that's not too difficult to achieve, given the way Microsoft have stripped down the graphical user interface, removing Aero Glass, Dynamic Icon resizing, to name but a few of the obvious software butchery that has gone on. Metro or Windows Live tiles, now where do I start with this! Firstly very poor deployment in quality of presentation as a concept, that is in no way going to be a threat to Google's Android, or Apple IOS 6 interface, and the usual Microsoft buggy experience in practice. Out of the box, there were too many Metro/Live tile apps from the Windows 8 market that failed to work correctly, from News apps to Net Radio to Video, all falling over on first run! Why was I not surprised, it's after all the Microsoft way. One can be forgiven for thinking that this version of Windows is a rather frantic attempt to keep up with the current revolution going on in the Google Android and Apple market.

    In conclusion forget the Microsoft Hype, this was clearly a missed opportunity by the Giant to make sound progress on their Windows 7 version, Windows 8 is a miss match fudge of ideas, that clearly demonstrates that Microsoft are losing their way. With the wealth of resources both financially, and intellectually, it's hard to believe that this version of Windows is the best that Microsoft could have come up with, to say that this is a missed opportunity is an understatement, and I'm sure most will feel it's even a waste of the modest 24.00.
    Did you miss the other critical features? Built in USB 3 with UASP baked in, storage spaces, revamped task manager, better security in the kernel, built in antimalware app on top of all the speed improvements. Use Win 8 for a week, and really make up your mind. Metro is nothing more than an oversized start menu that you'll spend no more than a few minutes in every day.
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  9. #1429


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    Windows 10 (64 bit)


    After trying Windows 8 preview extensively in a virtual mode I have come to the conclusion I would not install it on my two PCs even if Microsoft gave it to me for free.
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  10. #1430


    Quote Originally Posted by ivy8
    I can't wait until Microsoft eventually updates 8 and all these hacks mysteriously stop working. The Start menu was removed and replaced for a reason.
    That would be the top of stupidity ever yet at this point, they are able to do that!
    Technicaly speaking I think i's almost impossible to prevent a fake start menu to work. Because such program is very easy to code and you don't need legacy dll's from windows to do it. I could write such start menu in HTA in 2 hours, and fool anyone with it. The only thing to do is to pin it on the left of the taskbar. So what is MS going to do? Disable all apps which looks like a start menu in shape or form? Forbidden the pinning near the bottom left corner? Target Start-Menu softwares one by one? Windows risks to be very buggy if they try anything deep.
    The best they can do is to prevent the Desktop to appear unless Metro hasn't been opened once, or another trick like that. So at least they could prevent starting directly on the Desktop. But this would merely amount to a small additional annoyance: We already have to click uslessly on the single account present (if you don't use password, and have only one account), now we will have to click on the Desktop tile on the flash screen called Metro before starting to work.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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