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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #1371


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    Quote Originally Posted by Panoid View Post
    Windows 8 is a new OS which requires re-learning and is too much trouble for dopes.
    Some people are of the opinion that anyone who buys W8 is a dope, and if that's correct nobody will ever be able to use it! Guess that includes me cos I just bought it ... and paid $149 for Pro OEM Disk. And as Max out of 'Get Smart' would say: And loving it! ... with hacked Orb Start Menu and Explorer 7.

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  2. #1372


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    SIW2 , the futur ? , this is what I post on another forum, and it explain why Microsoft panic



    Google is killing the PC and Microsoft.


    It's not for nothing that Microsoft try since many years to win the search engine war: For many years Microsoft sell OS, Offices and other software for individual PCs, they make billions with it. Early as 2005 Bill Gates realize than one day peoples will stop to use PC and they will use utilities like cloud computing, look at what happen after, Microsoft race against Google, they lost. Google release Android making company sell millions of Android phones, Microsoft lost the market and not try desperately to regain the market by forcing peoples to use a Phone interface in their PC( Windows 8 ) . Microsoft try Office 365, but it cost more than Google Apps and even more if you want a version of Office with it. So now Microsoft is in the race for the Cloud domination, they are few step at the back of Google. Even Valve realize that, it's not for nothing they want to port their games to Linux because if Google and Microsoft succeed to kill the PC, nothing will be left for Valve ( Steam ) to make money.

    Think about it in a not so far future, you may rents all your software for you cloud terminals , play all your game on a console cloud terminals, the PC will be extinct, like the typewriter and the vacuum tube.
    PC extinct? Rubbish. What about 2560x1600 gaming? What about 24/7 x264/x265 rendering? What about heavy duty production work? We'll always have some form of a PC.

    As to the OS, Microsoft can't ignore phones and tablets. They need to have an ecosystem to match Apple especially. To do that they need an OS built for OS's and tablets. While doing that, they need to maintain desktop users. I challenge anyone in this thread. to come up with a better UI - you can't. Its too hard. They are two separate worlds but Microsoft needs both to survive. I say as a first try its decent. I will be interested in how Win 9 turns out.
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  3. #1373


    the flatter ui of the desktop was a welcome change but it could have used a little more refinement.

    should this be "File Explorer"?
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  4. #1374


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    the name of the application is explorer.exe , in Windows 7 it was call Windows Explorer and in Windows 8 it's call now files explorer in the menu but in the task manager they call it Windows Explorer, they really have a problem at Microsoft.



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  5. #1375


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Microsoft need to keep both the Tablet and Desktop/Laptop PC market alive, I like the UI but I do think it would have been better if Microsoft had released this as a Tablet edition and another OS for standard PC users which still focuses on the good old desktop UI.
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  6. #1376


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Metro is ok for a Windows 8 desktop, they just have to make it re sizable and in a window. But it's too hard to understand for mister vanity Steven Sinofsky
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  7. #1377


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    Quote Originally Posted by ash30000 View Post
    Microsoft need to keep both the Tablet and Desktop/Laptop PC market alive, I like the UI but I do think it would have been better if Microsoft had released this as a Tablet edition and another OS for standard PC users which still focuses on the good old desktop UI.
    I used to think that way too when I first started using 8. I thought, well, maybe there should be an option to bypass, an optional start menu, an option for no metro. But the arguments are all over the map. No nested menus, I can't find things, Where is Microsoft taking us...

    my focus is always, primarily, on the good ol desktop UI. Can't do much without it. Cannot see a tablet version on a system with 8GB of memory, 10 terabytes of storage, high powered graphics and multi monitors. Despite the naysayers, the gloom and doomers, anti touch crowd, and cloud conspiracy theorists, the combination of WinRT and Win32, is to coin a phrase, an equitable arrangement.
    After using it for a problem free year, 8 works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panoid View Post
    Windows 8 is a new OS which requires re-learning and is too much trouble for dopes.
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  8. #1378


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Panoid View Post
    Windows 8 is a new OS which requires re-learning and is too much trouble for dopes.
    Some people are of the opinion that anyone who buys W8 is a dope, and if that's correct nobody will ever be able to use it! Guess that includes me cos I just bought it ... and paid $149 for Pro OEM Disk. And as Max out of 'Get Smart' would say: And loving it! ... with hacked Orb Start Menu and Explorer 7.
    Good for you, Mustang! I sincerely mean that! I realize all will not like 8 out of the box. I'm glad you sought your own way. Goes to show that you can't always get what you want, but you can surely get what you need. :thumbup:
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  9. #1379


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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    I have no problem with learning how to use new programs. However the metro UI is the equivalent of installing cancer cells for my OS. Its not a case of simply learning how to use it, it is absolutely terrible to use.

    Moving my mouse cursor to a corner is far less practical and much slower than simply having a start button on the task bar with all the same functions would be. Most of the time I move my cursor to the corner and nothing even happens. Another bad thing is that if you do open a metro screen app, theres no way to close it other than using task killer (no X button to click to close like a window, escape key doesnt work, and getting back to the start screen takes 20x longer than it should do).
    I felt the same way, at first.

    But, after using it for a year or so, it's second-nature now.

    It's not an OS you'll feel immediately at home with, it does take time.

    I DO use Classic Start, AND the Start Screen.

    Oh, to close a Metro app.....ALT +F4.

    And a bottom-left left-click will take you straight to the Start
    Screen, and a top-left left-click will take you back to your program.

    One click, each way......
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  10. #1380


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Good for you, Mustang! I sincerely mean that! I realize all will not like 8 out of the box. I'm glad you sought your own way. Goes to show that you can't always get what you want, but you can surely get what you need. :thumbup:
    Thanks Hippsie. I felt it was worth the money for the improvements to the OS kernel, despite having to do hacks to get what best suited my way of using Windows. And the hack Ex7ForW8 actually grabs files from W7 installation disc when installing. So you end up with the exact same Orb Start Menu with all functions. You never see "Metro", but can click a toggle switch to turn off Explorer 7 and go back to Explorer 8 with Metro. My only concern is updates might make it inoperative. But even then I think some other alternative will come up. And I was willing to bet my money on that, which was all of $149 with disc.

    Cheers M
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