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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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    It wasn't only "little ole me" that found the 8 RP a bit "buggy"! Eventually I will get around to tossing the 8 Enterprise Developer release on a VM to have a better look at the closer to RTM while not expecting much.

    For Vista that version besides late should have seen driver support already available from the OEMs since it was late! But nope! The OEMs lagged way behind the actual release with 8 now seeing the same falling behind on support. Yet MS stressed support be available for 7! And 7 has been referred to at times as the "works right out of the box" OS.

    Gee what a time to be buying 7! I paid $320($319.99 without SP1 back then) and now see 7 Ultimate retail for what? $169.99! If you are looking for new and not going with 8 this is the time to find a lot of deals on 7.

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    Yes, like the MAPS on iPhone5!

    Tully
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    7 still had it's issues at launch lets not hide behind rose tinted glasses just because it's more stable now than then, many games didn't work as well as a great deal of software compatibility issues.

    graphics card and motherboard vendors are already updating drivers for use with win8, as well as already having support for win7 drivers as it is, it should be mostly fine out of the box with some teething issues as you would expect from any launch of any software product.

    yes apple are getting stick for the map app in ios6 but then they clearly didn't realise how much money they were going to have to invest in such a venture, google have spent millions on their mapping software as have tomtom garmin and everyone else, perhaps apple will sue google in a few months for copying their map app...lol

    but if you want to see the failure in windows 8 then you aren't seeing the positives it can bring to the computer market. the only aspect of windows 8 they got wrong from almost everyones view point is the metro ui.

    now not everyone feels the same which is fine, i personally don't mind it having been using win 8 since it's first beta granted it took some getting use to but now i'm kinda meh about the whole debate of metro, i've given up avoiding it and earlier this year started looking for gesture control methods over touch related products due to the way my office is setup.

    I recall having a similar feeling towards the r35 skyline, i knew it was a great car but i didn't quiet like it, after a while it really grew on me and i decided it was really rather nice to look at, I gave it a chance and decided win8 should be given the same chance.

    the thing is many storage companies are eager to break the 4-5tb hdd size and can if they want to many already have products that can but no OS that can use it, here comes windows 8 with a maximum storage support for several hundred TB, err i know 7 supports up to 3tb on a single drive and can support multiple drives doing the same thing, but that wasn't my point.

    there is a lot of hardware support built into 8 that isn't currently available which may give many a reason to upgrade when the time comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    the thing is many storage companies are eager to break the 4-5tb hdd size and can if they want to many already have products that can but no OS that can use it, here comes windows 8 with a maximum storage support for several hundred TB, err i know 7 supports up to 3tb on a single drive and can support multiple drives doing the same thing, but that wasn't my point.
    Even XP-64 can address 256TB partitions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Got2bereal View Post
    I'm just not convinced that people would switch from an easy to use iPad to an annoying tablet Os that requires you to login and ask so many annoying questions when you 1st sign in.
    Interesting that you put it that way. Come to think of it, I generally pick up my iPad after I'm done working on one of my PC's. I like to pick it up, select a book [or game, or whatever] and just use it. I don't use it like I use a PC because it ain't one. I don't think I'd care for a PC experience on a tablet. Metro seems to be a forced-fit. I won't be among those purchasing a Surface - my iPad is fine thank you.

    -Max
    Well, having a tablet that FORCES you to go into desktop mode to use the full functionality is pretty stupid IMO. They should have at least finished the tablet mode.
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    I'll be looking for a Tablet here as a gift for someone who is presently without internet service or a working phone line even where a 7 desktop had been connected by dial-up. Portablility and getting you out of a tight spot is what they are good for.

    The embedded OS is always far less functional then the desktop equivalent. Looking at a Smart Book with the embedded 7 on it is looking through a magnifying glass at a miniturized OS with less then half the functionality of the typical desktop installation. Now imagine what 8 would be like with even half of what the embedded 7 has to offer? Touch this, touch that, and then how do you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    the thing is many storage companies are eager to break the 4-5tb hdd size and can if they want to many already have products that can but no OS that can use it, here comes windows 8 with a maximum storage support for several hundred TB, err i know 7 supports up to 3tb on a single drive and can support multiple drives doing the same thing, but that wasn't my point.
    Even XP-64 can address 256TB partitions

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    thats interesting....so why do they hold back i wonder? if i recall windows 7 64 can't utilise anything over 2tb on a basic mbr partition and has to be installed onto a gpt partition and have supporting hardware to do so.

    not so simple now is it just to call that out, i didn't say windows couldn't support more either but they have held back due to the rather slow uptake of new computers due to so many being stuck on xp and not the shocking xp64 at that either which was worse than any os ever.

    do you really think the only reason we see 3tb max drives on the market is anything remotely linked to actual research and development limitations of storage solutions? it's more in line with slow up take of efi and slow uptake of gpt as a newer standard and the dreaded xp still lurking around on too many computers to make it worth while to have high market saturation and warrant the outlay in development and manufacturing.

    xp 64 can address several exabytes not terabytes, just the same as win7 64 and win 8 64, there are other reasons it's reduced to 256TB.
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    To add something here about the capacities presently seen Seagate is working on a new coating for the platters to boost the potentials from the Hitachi 4-5tb max presently seen out upto the 20-60tb range. The new drives will obviously catch a good sized retail pricing at first but will be soon be followed by other drive manufacturers in expanding storage capacities.

    How OSs address the new drive capacities will be something previously faced by XP with the old version's initial 137gb barrier. I suspect once the drives are actually out on the market MS as well as other OSs will be facing the present limitations in future developments as time goes on.
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    Windows 8 is great, except for several things.

    1. Touch doesn't belong on the desktop.
    2. I don't want my Desktop to feel like a trashy tablet.
    3. I want the OS delivering graphics appropriate for a powerful PC, not some underpowered piece of junk.
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    I can agree with part of each of those.

    1-Touchscreen option for Desktop not mandated gui
    2-Layout for the "Modern" or whatever leaves something to be desired
    3-For gamers improved performance lost to awkward user interface to some extent

    The loss of the Start menu and normal shutdown optoin replaced by a seek and find mission for hidden popup toolbars leaves much to be desired especially for desktop productivity as well as how things have been divided up and scattered around.

    Pinning things to the Start screen defeats the purpose of having a taskbar where you would generally pin things in 7. That replaced the old Quick Launch bar in the previous versions that you could still have visible while at the actual desktop rather then the tedious back and forth and back and forth and .. additional steps required for each new task.

    Just be glad MS has the resources to recover from the end result when 8 doesn't take well with the majority of desktop users. I think 8 will turn out to be a slow seller in the long run.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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