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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #1131


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    windows7 x 64 windows 8 x 64


    Here is going to be the future of windows 8 and beyond and I have to admit it looks pretty cool.

    Microsoft spies Apple vulnerability | Microsoft - CNET News

    This actually makes me wish I waited to get my hands on one of these hybrid systems!

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  2. #1132


    You never get a second chance to make a good first impression. This was something that plagued Vista out of the gate, it wasn't ready, and third party driver support wasn't there and it was released and it was scorned by tech guys everywhere. Even after it improved and was pretty solid, it never shook this initial image of being terrible. I expect Windows 8 could suffer a similar experience.

    While under the hood, Windows 8 is solid and performs great, it's the outside shell (UI) that you have to work with that really has an impact on people. It's like a super reliable, yet ugly car. Many people simply won't buy it. I'm not saying Windows 8 is that ugly....but some people might have no love for it.
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  3. #1133


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    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    You never get a second chance to make a good first impression. This was something that plagued Vista out of the gate, it wasn't ready, and third party driver support wasn't there and it was released and it was scorned by tech guys everywhere. Even after it improved and was pretty solid, it never shook this initial image of being terrible. I expect Windows 8 could suffer a similar experience.
    Totally true. This initial response I got from windows 8 was pretty terrible. It's been rock solid and functional for the last few months for me, but I think most users will never get over the start screen shock and the excruciatingly ugly desktop visuals.
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  4. #1134


    ^ And to make matters worse, I don't think that many people are experiencing problems with Windows 7. Thus, they aren't in a mad dash to get off Windows 7.
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  5. #1135


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    Windows 8 pre-release


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    While under the hood, Windows 8 is solid and performs great, it's the outside shell (UI) that you have to work with that really has an impact on people. It's like a super reliable, yet ugly car. Many people simply won't buy it. I'm not saying Windows 8 is that ugly....but some people might have no love for it.
    This is an excellent point and is a great summary of this whole thread.

    I think Vista was great (but maybe only for us hackers). --It was really good on paper. There are numerous intellectual reasons that it was a genius set-up, but, in the end, perhaps it was Aero that did it in. I

    am more optimistic towards Metro because I do like it and that is my opinion. I haven't seemed to have experienced the same clunkiness that other users are getting.
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  6. #1136


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulGo
    While many PC makers saw the coming of Windows 8 as an opportunity for growth and increased competition against Apple, those feelings are slowly fading.
    Of course, no need for a crystal ball to predict that: Who wants a desktop/tower PC with a cellphone monitor screen? The non sens at Redmond is stunning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    W8 will not die, it already has a lot of support.
    =)) ROTFLMAO
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    It will become mainstream whether you like it or not, when it ships on every single new laptop and desktop.
    If they do this you will see millions of poeple asking for a refund, returning the machine to the vendor, calling helpdesk or the computer stores... It will be an unmanageable situation. MS will be sued for delivering ill advertised products and the EU will fine them double digit billions just for the sake of it. The life of Metro on desktop PCs will be counted in weeks. Everybody will be laughing their lungs out. MS will be covered with ridicule.
    This thread is full with posts like the one I have quoted above. Not wanting to quote them all, I just use this post as an example.

    I would like to ask who has given these devil's advocates a permission to speak on behalf of me or other Windows users who happen to like Windows 8? The arrogance in some of these posts is something quite difficult to understand and accept. Like this statement:
    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Of course, no need for a crystal ball to predict that: Who wants a desktop/tower PC with a cellphone monitor screen? The non sens at Redmond is stunning.
    WTF, I have to ask?

    The Start GUI is, according to me and many others, one of the best things the Redmond geeks have produced. But, as this is a subjective opinion of mine, I wouldn't even dream to state that as a fact, like these trash-posters do with their personal opinions. I'd like to learn to understand how someone can think like that: "This is my opinion, ergo it must be a fact!".

    How I have grown to like Start GUI! I swap it to secondary display, open my news ticker and messaging app there dividing screen between them, and continue working on main display. I do not use a touch screen but it is amazing how fast, accurate and easy I can use the start GUI with my mouse.

    One thing I like in Windows Phone OS is that I can use this same, genial GUI on my phone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    The life of Metro on desktop PCs will be counted in weeks. Everybody will be laughing their lungs out.
    This idiotic statement, like others like it, does not even deserve a response.

    Kari
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  7. #1137


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    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)


    Quote Originally Posted by rich4421972 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    While under the hood, Windows 8 is solid and performs great, it's the outside shell (UI) that you have to work with that really has an impact on people. It's like a super reliable, yet ugly car. Many people simply won't buy it. I'm not saying Windows 8 is that ugly....but some people might have no love for it.
    This is an excellent point and is a great summary of this whole thread. I think Vista was great (but maybe only for us hackers). --It was really good on paper. There are numerous intellectual reasons that it was a genius set-up, but, in the end, perhaps it was Aero that did it in. I am more optimistic towards Metro because I do like it and that is my opinion. I haven't seemed to have experienced the same clunkiness that other users are getting.
    It was the mismatch of system requirements on paper and reality that did it in. Vista forever has a bad name because of it. I used to be a vista hater, especially when using it on a dirt cheap compaq laptop, and it was only after I got some quality time with vista on my quad core, 8GB ram, dual GPU gaming rig that I found out how good vista really was.(despite losing at least 10FPS on most games. 7 is no better though in that regard)
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  8. #1138


    USA/Tenn/Oak Ridge
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    Win 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    @Kari,,, Totally agree with your points. I like Win 8 and Metro.. there I said it. It's new and different and that's cool in my book. In my book Win 8 will do just fine. YMMV
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  9. #1139


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Thanks, Bunny.

    However, my main point was this phenomena I really hate, stating your own subjective thoughts and opinions as absolute facts. You know what I mean, this "This is my opinion so it must be a fact".
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  10. #1140


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi everyone

    Most of the adverse comments in this thread have been about people used to previous versions of Windows -- well what about people buying their FIRST computer.

    Now it took me ages and ages before I could even begin to THINK about using a smartphone -- for me a telephone was just that - you used it to make and receive calls - not even texts -- I still even today HATE the whole idea of texts and the horrendous degradation of sensible language (in any language - not just English) that makes reading any sort of "prose" from youngsters almost unreadable with their hideous "textese" and appalling lack of sentence construction. If I see any more "UR" or even worse "COULD CARE LESS" when they quite obviously mean "COULDN'T CARE LESS" then I just disregard the whole article and refer them to doing the 140 byte Twitter B/S.

    (Where I'm from the plural of a TWEET in the nearest English translation is called a "TWAT" which makes presumably "TWEETERS" into "TWATS" which I'm reliably informed means something quite different in English). !

    Using the Android phone to me makes the whole idea of tablets etc unnecessary -- the screen on the phone is large enough for what I would use a tablet for anyway-- even the E-reader application is sufficient to use for a shortish trip say 2 - 3hrs max.

    The point of this is to say that being 100% totally new to these devices didn't take me long to start using them in all sorts of ways I would never have dreamed of -- and I'm no youngster either.

    W8 will go through the same scenario - but it DOES need MS 100% to "De-Uglify" the whole start screen and tiles.

    As I said I question why the start screen has to be so horrendously UGLY -- looking like some old "Dinosaur app" from an AOL screen of 25 years ago. I could easily point MS in the direction of some young graphic designers who could really lighten up the hideous start screen -- allowing the developers to get the functionality right - without bothering what the final screen would look like.


    Other than that W8 won't be the doom and gloom people predict.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 05 Sep 2012 at 15:31.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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