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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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    I have to agree! Besides the gui change where you can still opt for a list of 3rd party OS tools compatibility issues and the apparent lack of driver support being available as seen for 7 will force many to skip this one over.

    The two main problems Vista ran into was simply lack of driver support from the start and why MS stressed OEMs to have drivers ready for 7 as well as the understated minimum system requirements MS originally had for the previous version. That allowed the OEMs to skimp heavily on their specs for new machines with Vista preinstalled.

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  2. #1032


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    Quote Originally Posted by kala View Post
    Except you got it all wrong. Who really uses "desktops" nowadays? Everything is mobile. Tablets are the future.
    How about tens of millions of office workers?
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  3. #1033


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kala View Post
    Except you got it all wrong. Who really uses "desktops" nowadays? Everything is mobile. Tablets are the future.
    How about tens of millions of office workers?
    And not to mention educational facilites, defence/police forces, government offices, serious desktop users ... and the list goes on.
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  4. #1034


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    I seem to recall people saying netbooks were the future - maybe, but it was a very short future.
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    yeah I remember that and WebTV
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  6. #1036


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    I consider every OS that I have tried from W98 thru to 7, (with the exception of Millenium which I skipped), to be an improvement on the previous one. OK Vista took a bit longer to get the bugs sorted out, but still better than XP.

    Can't say the same of 8. It has radically departed from the general structure of all past versions. And I have no doubt it will cause mayhem to the average joe.

    Smartfone/tablet users will be OK. However the skills involved in using these devices does not carry over carte blanche into a desktop PC.

    I have a Sony Android Smartfone, and there is no comparison between that and desktop. In fact I think of it as a hybrid computer/phone and not really that good at either. Try typing a word doco on a tiny screen. And the web sites need to be magnified 300 - 400% to make them readable, with 3 or 4 scrolls to read a line. You can't print a hard copy receipt for bank transactions. And so it goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    I consider every OS that I have tried from W98 thru to 7, (with the exception of Millenium which I skipped), to be an improvement on the previous one. OK Vista took a bit longer to get the bugs sorted out, but still better than XP.

    Can't say the same of 8. It has radically departed from the general structure of all past versions. And I have no doubt it will cause mayhem to the average joe.

    Smartfone/tablet users will be OK. However the skills involved in using these devices does not carry over carte blanche into a desktop PC.

    I have a Sony Android Smartfone, and there is no comparison between that and desktop. In fact I think of it as a hybrid computer/phone and not really that good at either. Try typing a word doco on a tiny screen. And the web sites need to be magnified 300 - 400% to make them readable, with 3 or 4 scrolls to read a line. You can't print a hard copy receipt for bank transactions. And so it goes on.



    No matter how many times marketing agencies, and companies CLAIM something utterly absurd, it is very difficult to completely discount the many voices of intelligent, reasoned, critically thinking, independent consumers with money to spend. Thank you, Mustang!
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    Tepid what about the iOpener? The so-called future of computing eh? The all in one web appliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I seem to recall people saying netbooks were the future - maybe, but it was a very short future.
    Wasn't that ironic the one retail chain store that actually carried netbooks locally here went bankrupt! You don't see them in Walmarts which are all over the place while Target or Best Buy likely will.

    Netbooks or other tiny screen hand helds are conveniences to sell. Ask yourself however if you would want to try running a full screen pc game on a what? Some type of smart phone? It doesn't work! On a netbook even you would hardly see more then puzzle games for the obvious reasons of hardware limitations.

    You still need the large screen and horse power on the hood for cpu and graphics. Now you come to the main desktop apps like MS Office and have the other elements of a typical workstation while you can get away with running a laptop. There's no confusion as to the vast differences between all that and your Android or IPad!

    As for Web TV that initially brought what you now would see replaced by XFinity or other ISP online entertainment. The difference now is being able to log in and watch while on the go with your laptop or simply logging in on someone else's pc rather then being glued to the tv set in your living room with a controller box option.

    The main difference however besides that is that Web TV produces it own series while newer services by ISPs pipe regular aired as well as cable shows out on the web. Web television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  10. #1040


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Too early to tell - but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of users sat this one out.

    Just like XP users sat out Vista.
    I bought my Dell Inspiron 17R specifically for that reason: to sit it out. I wanted to get as high-performance a machine as I could afford, nail Win7 onto it and keep it for a long time. I have no idea how well Win8 will do but after playing with the thing for close to a year I realized that it just isn't viable. Let's see what the landscape looks like in 5 or 6 years, eh?

    -Max
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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