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  1. #11


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    ... 8x does take a bit longer to boot up, and the file copying is slower...
    in what way? just curious. both 8.1 and server 2012 after post boot is 6 or 7 seconds with my specs.
    So isn't it hardware and software dependent? Double / triple booting - or virtual systems?
    Only what I see counts.

    How is terabytes in minutes slow?

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  2. #12


    Posts : 70
    windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    Not the first time when, I see such attempt. I suspect that HP is not happy with sales so to please more (conservative) crowd they "introduce" windows 7. Happened before, will happen again.

    Each time when I see speed comparison between different windows I feel as this is waste of time even reading about it. Usually people compare installation on the same hardware but is OS similarly configured? Comparable number of processes, scheduled tasks, similarly configured GUI, net and so on? Usually not. So why bother? One OS but different OEM setup equals different boot time and different user's experience.

    Windows 8.1 is (for me) first regularly used MS system since windows XP. I did not find it difficult (to configure and use) or quirky. Yes, some things aren't well thought. Security is (as in the times of windows XP) an issue, but I don't know any other OS that would be flawless.
    Most of pros or against articles are pure PR bought by one or another company or just written by fanboys. Simply learn how to use it and all will be o.k.
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  3. #13


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    post boot is 6 or 7 seconds with my specs
    I don't believe that. Show me the Event 100 nums. Those are the only nums to compare apples with apples.

    Eventvwr
    Applications and Service Logs
    Microsoft
    Windows
    Diagnostics - performance
    Operational
    Event ID 100

    Here is my Win7 number.

    Click image for larger version
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  4. #14


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    post boot is 6 or 7 seconds with my specs
    I don't believe that. Show me the Event 100 nums. Those are the only nums to compare apples with apples.

    Eventvwr
    Applications and Service Logs
    Microsoft
    Windows
    Diagnostics - performance
    Operational
    Event ID 100

    Here is my Win7 number.

    Click image for larger version
    I think the key to there post was what was meant by this "after post boot"

    I thought my boot was fast ,it showed a 22645ns
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  5. #15


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I don't want any word twisting. Event 100 is the same for everybody. That's why it is a good basis to compare notes. I am really interested to see his event 100 because my 8.1 is actually slower (28sec) - but on another much smaller machine.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 1,360
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    I must admit at first I wasn't a fan of Windows 8 but as I began to tinker with it I realized its potential. People will always find something to complain about, that's a given. As a creature of habit I think it was not very smart of MS to start the OS with the Metro interface.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 70
    windows 8.1


    actually boot time has at least three values of interest:
    MainPathBootTime - from windows logo to usable desktop
    BootPostBootTime - from dekstop to finished loading of various background services
    BootTime - summ of the above
    Click image for larger version

    as you see this was taken today, not year ago. Time listed with barebone win 8.1 was initially ~16s in Event ID 100, however I had to start some other services to make it working in a usable way so 19.5s on the laptop is what it is usable for me.
    Again all is in the config and unless same parameters are set up, comparison between different windows version is far from valid. Event ID100 just represents how much one tweaked boot time and it is not comparable between different configurations. It is as good as any other subjective method of measuring (in this case) boot time.

    regarding 7s boot time on win 7. Of course possible because on my laptop MainPathBootTime takes 7.9s so still debatable what you count.
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  8. #18


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Bottom line - it's a wash. No high flying theories needed.

    I realize that there are a lot of parameters that can skew the nums, but ballpark Win7 and 8.1 have the same boot time. In fact on my systems where I run 7 and 8.1, the 7 boot is faster. But that may be because of my particular setup.

    I think we should end the performance discussion. There is nothing to be gained by migrating to 8.1. If you want fast, go Linux.


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  9. #19


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Don't forget to factor in Windows 8's "Fast Boot". I would think for a true comparison you'd want to turn it off.
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  10. #20


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Don't forget to factor in Windows 8's "Fast Boot". I would think for a true comparison you'd want to turn it off.
    But . . . but . . . but . . . that's what makes bootup faster for me with Windows 8. If Windows 7 doesn't have that, and it takes an SSD card to make Win 7 boot faster, then, well, ummm, errr . . .
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