Solved Can't boot into Windows 8.1 on reboot after boot defrag

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Ok so here is the deal I have been using PerfectDisk forever previous to version 13 which was released with an update for Windows 8.1 I have never had a problem running a boot defrag...What happens was i usually defrag my boot files on reboot everytime i restart with NO PROBLEMS..It would defrag them on reboot then restart afterwards boot into windows with no problem but this time it did not....it does the job fine but when it restarts I get the error your computer must be restarted ignore windows recovery screen after restart hit any key to restart immediately restarting in blah blah with countdown timer

Things I have done so far
- I have used startup repair etc etc in the advance bootup options Windows recovery disk..(I do not have restore points)
- I can boot into safe mode using a command prompt to change the bcd which will boot it right into the mode
- I have run sfc command in safe mode a few times as well

I think it might have something to do with either the registry or the bootup files being screwed up for some odd reason by PerfectDisk13 by Raxco any help would be appreciated
 

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Tried that already got nowhere with it..Also a refresh/reset pc is not possible
 

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Are you using a Windows 8.1 x64 DVD/USB disk.
 

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I would Restore using your last System Image backup you made.
 

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What happens was i usually defrag my boot files on reboot everytime i restart with NO PROBLEMS..It would defrag them on reboot then restart afterwards boot into windows with no problem but this time it did not
What do you mean when you say "defrag your Boot Files"?
 

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    Windows 8.1 x64
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Grown
    CPU
    i7 3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 -v Pro, Z87-Expert
    Memory
    16 G
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified (2)
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SSD 240 GB
What happens was i usually defrag my boot files on reboot everytime i restart with NO PROBLEMS..It would defrag them on reboot then restart afterwards boot into windows with no problem but this time it did not
What do you mean when you say "defrag your Boot Files"?

its a thing that programs such as perfectdisk /ultradefrag/smart defrag do..i believe it provides a quicker boot time this is what i found for explanation regarding windows 7 so it will apply here Defragment Boot Files on Windows 7 « FAQforge ...imo its just like defragging your hard drive it provides quicker access to files/folders but in this case speeds up the boot process by moving around junk that slows it down
 

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Thanks, I just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to defrag a System or System Reserved partition since those don't need to be messed with.

What the program does appears to be related to the hiberfil.sys file. Since the Windows 8 Fast Startup makes special use of such a file, it might be effecting its composition. Don't know if such a think might cause boot problems, but you seem to know about the BCD Store, can you attach a copy of a Bcdedit /enum all listing?
 

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    Home Grown
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    i7 3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 -v Pro, Z87-Expert
    Memory
    16 G
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified (2)
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SSD 240 GB
You might want to describe your configuration like how many partitions are on the drive and what type are they. It appears you have made multiple installs or multiple attempts at installs and added many extra entries in the BCD store. The fact you have the extra entries may not hurt since the basic settings seem to be OK but confusion could be involved.

I will of course assume this is a legacy install, and possibly done over Windows 7?

Except, do you know why the Boot Manager might be in partition E: and if so what is that partition?

When you boot, look at the Boot Device Menu and let us know what options you show for boot?
 

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    Windows 8.1 x64
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    i7 3770K
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    ASUS P8Z77 -v Pro, Z87-Expert
    Memory
    16 G
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified (2)
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SSD 240 GB
See if this will help u
 

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On the second line (device partition=E; Shouldn't it say partition=C?
 

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I don't see the E: partition. I do see an active partition that could be used for booting, but it is not designated as System. How exactly did you boot to get the disk management picture and do you have another device that actually contains the boot files? Will it boot without a DVD present?

If the 7 GB Recovery Partition is your boot partition, the bcd should designate it as partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1 but these entries are modified by the system in some cases. If it is booting to the DVD, it might change back.

Did you intentionally change the active status to the OEM recovery partition and then delete the original System reserved partition?

when it restarts I get the error your computer must be restarted ignore windows recovery screen after restart hit any key to restart immediately restarting in blah blah with countdown timer

Do you know what is giving this message, the utility or Windows 8? Have you tried setting the boot menu policy to Legacy instead of Standard?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Grown
    CPU
    i7 3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 -v Pro, Z87-Expert
    Memory
    16 G
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified (2)
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SSD 240 GB
I don't see the E: partition. I do see an active partition that could be used for booting, but it is not designated as System. How exactly did you boot to get the disk management picture and do you have another device that actually contains the boot files? Will it boot without a DVD present?

If the 7 GB Recovery Partition is your boot partition, the bcd should designate it as partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1 but these entries are modified by the system in some cases. If it is booting to the DVD, it might change back.

Did you intentionally change the active status to the OEM recovery partition and then delete the original System reserved partition?

when it restarts I get the error your computer must be restarted ignore windows recovery screen after restart hit any key to restart immediately restarting in blah blah with countdown timer

Do you know what is giving this message, the utility or Windows 8? Have you tried setting the boot menu policy to Legacy instead of Standard?

I don't believe the 7gb should be the boot partition at all its a recovery drive

I could have accidentally changed the active status i did many diff bcd commands including the fixmbr and other commands

i think what is giving me the error message is the utility......i have not played with the boot menu policy....can u dumb it down a little i think i know what u mean in this whole thing but dont wanna **** up anything else lol
 

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I don't believe the 7gb should be the boot partition at all its a recovery drive
No, it should not be the boot partition, but it is the only active partition I see, therefore for a Legacy install, it must be the System Partition. It should be the partition that was in the unallocated space, but it appears you have deleted it...I wonder why....

I could have accidentally changed the active status i did many diff bcd commands including the fixmbr and other commands
It is very hard to get Windows to make a partition active, but it might have if the conditions were right, such as no other active partition.

i think what is giving me the error message is the utility......i have not played with the boot menu policy....can u dumb it down a little i think i know what u mean in this whole thing but dont wanna **** up anything else lol
I would suggest you stop using the utility, it seems to be causing you problems. If you do a Repair as Theog suggested earlier, it will set up the Recovery partition as your boot partition. If you do not want that, format the small unallocated partition, and set it to active, then do a Repair.

You did not answer the question if it would boot without the media in the DVD drive.

I don't suppose you would want to re-install and clean everything up.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Grown
    CPU
    i7 3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 -v Pro, Z87-Expert
    Memory
    16 G
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified (2)
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SSD 240 GB
I don't believe the 7gb should be the boot partition at all its a recovery drive
No, it should not be the boot partition, but it is the only active partition I see, therefore for a Legacy install, it must be the System Partition. It should be the partition that was in the unallocated space, but it appears you have deleted it...I wonder why....

I could have accidentally changed the active status i did many diff bcd commands including the fixmbr and other commands
It is very hard to get Windows to make a partition active, but it might have if the conditions were right, such as no other active partition.

i think what is giving me the error message is the utility......i have not played with the boot menu policy....can u dumb it down a little i think i know what u mean in this whole thing but dont wanna **** up anything else lol
I would suggest you stop using the utility, it seems to be causing you problems. If you do a Repair as Theog suggested earlier, it will set up the Recovery partition as your boot partition. If you do not want that, format the small unallocated partition, and set it to active, then do a Repair.

You did not answer the question if it would boot without the media in the DVD drive.

I don't suppose you would want to re-install and clean everything up.


I dunno how I did that but i know for a fact it is the recovery partition to install back to the way my laptop was shipped with windows 7 and tons of sony nonsense software

very odd about the active partition

yes before i just wont run a boot defrag the utility despite this issue never has had an issue

i did a repair many times both the boot repair and trying to do a system repair both fail when running the system repair in adv boot options i get the error the user posted about with the wrong media inserted issue blah blah blah

let me try without the media in the drive and see if it will boot normally

def dont wanna reinstall let me test and get back to u in a lil
 

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